Monday, March 2. 2009English vs mother tongue as a medium of instruction
(Following is the transcript of the segment "Analysis by Winnie Monsod" which aired on News on Q on Jan. 26, 2009. Prof. Winnie Monsod is the resident analyst of News on Q which airs weeknights at 9:30 p.m. on Q Channel 11.)
Before we discuss the so-called Gullas bill or the proposed act strengthening and enhancing the use of English as a medium of instruction, let's get a backgrounder on the state of education in the Philippines. For every 100 children that start grade one in our country, only 65 will reach Grade 6, the others having dropped out along the way (with 18 of the dropouts occurring between Grade 1 and Grade 2). What this means is that even before these children are 12 years old, more than one third of them are essentially condemned to poverty. That is not all. The net enrollment ratios have been steadily decreasing between 2003 and 2007, and for the Philippines, that has gone down from 90.3% to 83.2%. The quality of that education is abysmal. Only 26% or a little over ¼ of 6th graders have a mastery of English, where mastery is defined as obtaining a score of 75% or higher in English, 31% of those students have a mastery of Math and 15% have a mastery of Science. And if that is abysmal, that means the quality of high school education has to be the pits because only 7% of them have mastery in English. 16% have mastery in Math... 2% have mastery in Science. Even college does not help: only 2 to 7% of college graduates who apply for positions in BPOs show English mastery, and even then, they have to undergo another three months of training to increase their competence. This is where the Gullas bill comes in. The rationale of that bill is that if we want to have greater competence in English, and be in a position to take advantage, or compete in a globalized world, English must be used as the medium of instruction from Grade 3 onwards. Now everyone will agree that we need greater competence in English to be competitive in a globalized world. But educators or those who have done education research will disagree that using English as the medium of instruction will accomplish that goal. As a matter of fact, they point out that research findings are unequivocal, that to achieve greater mastery in English or Filipino, the most effective medium of instruction is in the child's mother tongue that is her first language or the language spoken at home. Studies in country after country bear this out. Teaching in an official school language that is not the mother tongue is a major barrier in the child's learning. In the Philippines, the experiment was conducted in Kalinga, where teachers use Kalinga to teach children from Grades 1 to 3 to read and write. It is also the medium of instruction for teaching other subjects, including Filipino and English. Out of the 10 districts in the Kalinga division, the Lubuagan district topped the 2006 national achievement test Grade 3 reading test for both English and Filipino, with mean scores of 76.55% and 76.45 respectively, which indicates mastery. The Tinglayan district came in a far second, registered only 63.89% and 53.58%. The Gullas bill has very good intentions. But, as they say, the road to hell is paved with good intentions. Trackbacks
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After our experience with ex-Bb.Pilipinas Janina San Miguel, we should rectify this by going back to English as our medium of instructions.
my mother tongue is not Tagalog. How can you reconcile that with the mother tongue approach?. However, i do speak good English. And, i even believe that non tagalog speakers speak better English.
The mother tongue approach means students will be taught using their native language--be it Tagalog, Bisaya, Kapampangan, Ilocano, Kalinga, or any other Philippine language.
You 'speak good english'? I believe it shoudl be 'speak english well.
Filipinos speak good english or as one of the guy said "filipinos speaks english language well." Ok Ok, try speaking with an aussie guy, or an Irish or scotch, I reckon, no matter what acccent or pronunciation you got, I don't care, as long as you are not rude, I mean, friendly to talk with, it doesn't worry me at all. cheers to all!
yeah right! how can you claim you do speak English "good" thus you don't know even to apply proper adverb(s).
Do you speak good English? (Adjective "good" describes noun English)
Do you speak English well?( adverb "well" describes verb "speak") Both questions are grammatically correct but the second one is more idiomatic.
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guz_gusin
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2009-03-04 21:22
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Tayong mga pinoy akala mo magagaling na mag ingles, number 1 critics tau,pero kung tutuusin, nde na maging particular sa grammar dahil pag na conscious ka sa grammar mo mag e stammer ka, dito sa ibayong dagat, hanggang maisawalat mo sa ingles ang gusto mong tukuyin kahit balibaliktad pa englis mo ok lang, makikinig sa u ang mga foreigner na kausap mo, per pag kausap mo pinoy tatawanan ka pa... tsk tsk tsk..
Can anyone teach me good filipino language, goodness me, my filipino friends taught me all the crap ones.
Ang masasabi ko sa topic na ito eh dapat parehong ituro. tagalog at english language.
tagalog dahil ito ang wikang pambansa. English para may chance ang bawat isa just in case he/she needs his/her english to compete sa trabaho sa Pilipinas at sa ibang bansa. Additionally, mas ok kung marunong ng english sa Piipinas para ma-enjoy ang mga bagay na nakasulat sa english or ma-enjoy ang mga english movies. Hindi dapat balewalain ang english dahil mas maraming potential benefits kesa sa walang alam sa english. my case alone is an example. no way na mag qualify ako sa US NAVY kung hindi sapat ang natutuhan kung english sa Pilipinas. Kung mahina ang english ko noon hindi ako papasa sa exam nila. Sa ngayon, anim na kapatid ko ang nasa US dahil sa decent english ko. napag-aral ko sa college ang 7 kapatid ko dahil sa decent english knowledge ko. 3 kapatid ko ang nasa Australia ngayon dahil sa decent english ko. na-elevate ang social and financial status ng pamilya ko dahil sa natutuhan kong english sa Pilipinas. Lahat na ito ay pangarap lang kung hindi ako natutong mag-english sa paaralan sa Pilipinas. Dalawang pamangkin ko may good chance ngayon to migrate sa Australia dahil sa pagpasa nila sa english test which is required by the Australian government. Of course, hindi mo kailangan ang english kung talagang hindi mo kailangan. Para sa akin dapat lahat ng students sa Pilipinas matutong magsalita ng english...JUST IN CASE THEY NEED IT. People are saving money and putting it away somewhere...JUST IN CASE THEY NEED IT. I never thought I'd need my english knowledge until the day I took the english test sa Subic Naval Base many many moons ago. Buti na lang nagsave ako ng english language knowledge. Dapat pag-aralang mabuti ng mga nasa Bureau of Education kung paano ang tamang pagtuturo ng english and how much english ang dapat ituro. Dapat may tamang pamantayan para malaki ang chance or confidence na marunong ng magsalita ng english ang bawat student. English was the medium of instruction noong high school days ko. Sa palagay ko marami sa classmates ko nahirapan during high school kasi nga english ang salita ng mga teachers. Perhaps the English language subject itself was not effective? Not enough maybe? Dapat siguro more attention must be given sa first english language subjects. More emphasis on grammar and less on Literature? Luckily, it was good enough to help me.
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Anonymous
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2009-03-05 09:59
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Hindi po Tagalog ang ating wikang pambansa kundi Filipino po.
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Anonymous
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2009-03-05 23:41
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e dyan na lang sa wikang pambansa hindi pa masigurado, ano pa kaya kung wikang banyaga? ang Filipino po ay tao, ang Pilipino po ay wika ng Pilipinas.
Mayayabang tayong mga Filipino sa kaunting kaalaman natin sa English, pili-pilipit naman kung magsalita at magsulat. Ang stress at emphasis wala sa lugar, tulad nang pagbigkas sa precedent, candy, matrimony, Daniel, alimony, severance, at marami pang iba... nakakatawa. Mga radio broadcasters nakakatawa ang pagpipilit magelitistant inglis - ang format ng radio station nila ay tagalog, pero parang banyaga silang pinanganak sa Pilipinas o Pilipinong bagong salta sa Amerika kung magsalita, tulad ni Jazmin Romero ng RMN (ang number 2 nya ay tsu, nakakairita), tapos wala pang laman ang sinasabi halatang trying hard na pinagtatawanan ni Jake Maderaso, si Ruel Otieco grabeng magslang sa tagalog, parang Jamaican lalo na ang sound ng "ng" nya na "neng menga pulis", "eng senabe ne kongresman"; si Kiko Callado at Karen Golpo ng DZRH slang na slang ang tagalog nila; si Weng Salvacion ng DZBB, sobrang pelepet den ang dela sa pagslang ng tagalog, at yung asum (assume) sounds like azoom, avenu (avenue) and nu (new) sounds like bastardized english. Anong competence mayroon ang Pilipino sa English pagdating sa 1. reading 2. writing and 3. comprehension. I hate to suggest a number between 1 to 10 --- the readers might not like what I'm gonna suggest.
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Jay Villarante
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2009-03-06 14:05
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THE 1987 CONSTITUTION
OF THE REPUBLIC OF THE PHILIPPINES ARTICLE XIV Section 6. The national language of the Philippines is Filipino. As it evolves, it shall be further developed and enriched on the basis of existing Philippine and other languages. http://www.chanrobles.com/article14language.htm
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Anonymous
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2009-03-07 04:36
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I see. I was out of the country during that time so I missed it. Thanks.
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Anonymous
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2009-03-10 09:07
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i was out of the country too before that time and until now.
try listening to radio broadcasters na akala mo kung sino na mag inglis, yung flag cere'mony, testi'mony, matri'mony, ali'mony, sever'ance, at kung anu ano pang mony, pati mga tongresman ng pinas.. magtagalog na lang sana sila para naiintindihan ng balana.. pati sa korte ng pinas, hirap magdepensa mga abugado, mga nasasakdal at naghahabla naman litung lito sa inglis.. sana magtagalog na lang para umasenso.. yung mga accent ng trying hard at burgis na gustong maging kakaiba from the rest, pakisabi lang WINNIE, hindi uubra yung mga pag aastang yung dito sa abroad.. at yung mga tagalog tulad ng neto o eto imbis na nito at ito at saka yung pag gamit ng salitang "siya", kahit hindi patungkol sa tao ay ginagamit ng mali... walang pag asenso puro ka ek ekan.... kaya tuloy hindi maayus ayos pagsasalita ng tagalog dahil sa walang solidong panuntunan sa pananalita...
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Anonymous
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2009-03-06 11:24
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may letter F pala sa alphabet natin. Huuuuummmmmmm.
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Anonymous
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2009-03-06 11:50
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May letter F pala sa alphabet natin. Asent siguro ako nung ituro yun.
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Good Shepherd
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2009-03-08 11:33
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>Not necessarily na nasa alphabet natin yung "F". Ito yung so-called "Hiram na Titik". FILIPINO was both considered as Nationality and Language.
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Albert
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2009-03-08 07:36
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What is the difference between Tagalog and Filipino?
That's funny how you would zero-out Janina San Miguel incident as a "plausible cause" to your "prescriptive conclusion" that we therefore go back to using English as a medium of instruction.
Ako ay Senior Pre-Professional Biology major na nag-aaral dito sa U.S. Nag-aral sa publikong paaralan sa Pilipinas mula elementary hanggang high school kung saan ang paggamit ng English ay limitado. I know that it is important that we learn to articulate what we know in English (language of globalization) but it is equally important that we do in our mother tongue. Sa palagay ko lamang na mas mahalaga na naiintindihan ang prinsipyo na tinuturo sa klase. Applying in the U.S. navy is not as critical as applying for a job, career job especially, in the Philippines. Americans are not very particular on grammar as long as you can express what is on your mind. They dont care about your adjectives, adverb, articles, gender etc., your pronunciation, or even if you made mistake.
In the Philippines, Filipino Employers are very critical even with your accent and how you construct your sentences with articles, adjective, adverb etc., and they not forgiving. In the school, where 95 percent of our English will start and perhaps originate, The Board of Education must emphasize the importance of learning English without disturbing our present educational systems' setup. As a Filipino, I can understand and speak Filipino pretty well. I dont need pandiwa or panghinaharap to impart what I have in mind. It is not being less patriotic but we are spending valuable time where we can spend it more effectively somewhere else! You must be referring to interviews. How about the written tests? Paano ka papasa sa written tests ng US Navy kung mahina ka sa English? Don't forget na laging may test na comprehension at saka vocabulary at saka grammar. Paano na nga kung mahina ka sa English? Paano na kung natutulog ka sa klase noong high school habang nagtuturo ng English ang teacher mo? Papasa ka kaya sa written tests?
Less critical it was not. Tell that to the 80 percentile who did not make it.
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Anonymous
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2009-03-04 14:22
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It was me..Albert
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ANTONIO ALAS
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2009-03-05 18:36
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My reference to "critical" does not necessarily imply that you are poor in English.It refers to fastidiousness or being finicky of the interviewer involved.If I will apply for a career job, I would rather be interviewed by an American than our Filipino professionals.
My point here is that additional study tools in English should be devised to improve our English skill.In a less forgiving interviewer environment, your knowledge of being hired is proportional with your English skill.
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Albert
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2009-03-06 11:48
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I didn't think you were implying that I am poor in english. Your comment was saying that americans are more forgiving when one speaks english poorly...relative to pinoy interviewers. I agree on this point. You are correct. Be that as it may, one still needs to pass the english written tests in Math, reasoning, grammar, vocabulary, physics, etc...before one faces the forgiving american interviewer. The english written tests render the playing field equal to all.
By the way, "My point here is that additional study tools in English should be devised to improve our English skill." I agree. "In a less forgiving interviewer environment, your knowledge of being hired is proportional with your English skill." ...., your knowledge of being hired is proportional with your english skill. Can you explain this? Medyo mababaw kasi ako kaya it did not make sense to me. I have an idea pero ayaw kung mag second guess. Did you really mean to write KNOWLEDGE? If so,???????. I agree with the Mother Tongue approach. I used to believe that it is better to require all schools to use English as the official medium of instruction. But then later on, watching my own process, I realized that we still can understand things better if things are explain to us in our mother tongue. What's the point of education anyway? Isn't it about making people understand things (e.g. concepts, the world around them, etc)? Syempre yung mga pilosopo dyan sasabihin, what about those kids brought up by their parents to be English speaking? I guess the point here is do not force English when the pupils in the area are more comfortable with Tagalog (or whatever dialect they speak). Use whichever can help the "future of this country" understand better... Look at the Koreans and the Taiwanese. They don't speak English well, but look at the depth by which they understand the world around them...
Niabot na kining problema ni Winnie Monsod. Nasayop siguro ko sa paghimugso sa pang-huna-huna apan sa makita nako sa iyang panglantaw, daw hinungdan sa pag-ubos sa kalidad sa usa ka tulungha-an mao kay wala kini mogamit sa pulong sa naandan kung asa siya nahimugso, hilabina sa Lubuagan.
Ang pagtu-on wala magsalid sa pinulungan lamang apan usab sa kalidad sa nagtudlo niini, sa mga gamit sa tungha-an, sa gidaghanon sa mga estudyante, sa tabang sa ginikanan, ug daghan pa nga mga hinungdan. Ang pag-ubos sa kalidad sa pagtulun-an dili unta isumpay sa maong pagpasaka sa maong lehislatura. Daghan pang mga hinungdan nga dapat tan-awon. Dinhi sa Kabisaya-an, ang pagkalibog sa mga terminolohiya sa nagkalain-laing interpretasyon usa usab kahinungdan sa maong problema sa edukasyon. tama ka..nakakhiya tlaga..sus kilala pa naman ang mga pinoy na marunong sa english..kaya dapat lang talaga na lahat eh english maliban lang sa subjet na pilipino...d2 sa thailand ginawang ULAGIGAY ang kanilang mamamayan..sus hirap makipag-usap..where,when..what..di alam..sus kapag nakipag-usap ka ng fluent na english di na nila maintindihan..sus kahit na pinagbalu baluktot pa..ewan..buti na lang pinoy ako...sige isulong natin ang tamang pag-gamit ng english..dapat nga baby pa tinuturuan na..para masanay sa english..di naman ibig sabihin nun tinatakwil na ang sariling wika...GOD BLESS US!!!!!!!!
The real and more important issue is how to save the failing quality of education. Lawmakers should worry about that instead of focusing the entire educational system in meeting the demands of a young booming industry of Business Process Outsourcing. Improving our educational system is the long-term solution to meet the demands of a globalized economy. If they really want to do something about our educational system then they should listen to expert educators and employ techniques that have been proven by studies.
It's seems that you did not read Winnie's article at all. She said that studies have shown that the most effective medium of instruction is the language used at home. Here, I'll quote the most important part of her article:
"Studies in country after country bear this out. Teaching in an official school language that is not the mother tongue is a major barrier in the child's learning. "In the Philippines, the experiment was conducted in Kalinga, where teachers use Kalinga to teach children from Grades 1 to 3 to read and write. It is also the medium of instruction for teaching other subjects, including Filipino and English. "Out of the 10 districts in the Kalinga division, the Lubuagan district topped the 2006 national achievement test Grade 3 reading test for both English and Filipino, with mean scores of 76.55% and 76.45 respectively, which indicates mastery. The Tinglayan district came in a far second, registered only 63.89% and 53.58%. " Janina San Miguel shouldn't have spoken in English if she wasn't fluent in it. Numerous non-English speaking beauty contestants all over the world have won titles speaking their own language, which was always translated into English through interpreters. Yes, bigyan mo naman ng trabaho ang mga yan. Nobody is inherently superior to others just because he/she speaks English better than the rest. If you're non-English speaking and want to speak perfect English, it's better to learn it through your own language. And you learn to think more creatively and originally. Finally, other countries that insist on using English as medium of instruction, like India and Bangladesh, all fall behind Japan, Korea, Germany, France, etc, which all learn using their own language and learn English only as a second language. how ironic... you chided Ex-BB Pilipinas Janina San miguel for her erroneous english and yet you wrote "medium of INSTRUCTIONS"?! What?! It is only written without a letter "S" my dear hercy nieva... the proper phrase is "medium of instruction"... but hey, you got a point... Guess we really need to have English as our medium of INSTRUCTION after your blunder. hehehehe
karamihan sa mga pilipino sa ngayon ay nagingibang bansa para makakuha ng kung hindi man maayos ay magandang trabaho at ang pangunahing ginagamit na wika ay ingles pero bago pa man sila makaalis sa Pilipinas pa lamang ay kailngan na nilang ayusin ang mga dokumento at kontrata na karamihan ay sa ingles din nakasulat...maging ang teknolohiya sa ngayon lahat ay halos nakabase sa ingles..papaano tau makikipag kompetensiya sa ibang bansa kung hindi natin naiintindihan ang mga ito..sa kolehiyo na may mga aralin pang tagalog tulad ng inhenyero saan nila gagamitin ito??dapat taasan ang kalidad ng pagtuturo ng ingles sapagkat iyan ang umpisa kung papaano mo maiintindihan ang araling matematika at siyensiya...at higit sa lahat papano maiintindihan ng tao ang batas natin na nakasulat sa ingles..
A distinct competitive advantage for Filipinos in the global market is the ability to effectively communicate in English.
Filipinos have always been better English communicators than Chinese, Japanese, Indians and Koreans. But year after year, our English proficiency has been declining. Our Asian neighbors are already closing the gap. They are already ahead with regards to technology and have better science and math skills as a nation. Pati ba naman sa English. Sayang naman if we lose our competitive advantage. English, English, English...Not because you love the English or the Americans. Try traveling overseas in without using English or go to to a place where English is not spoken or understood and you will see what I mean. At the same time that this debate is going on whether Pinoys need to learn more English, the quality of communicating in English among Pinoys is going down while the others are going up. Pinoys used to be the best in basketball in Asia, later on as others get better, we were overtaken.
Some Chinese in China will approach you without any hesitation or shame and talk with you just to practice their English. The English language belongs to the world now or more specifically to those willing to learn and master it. Let the debate continue (in English) at the same time that you are learning more English. Language is not a basis of a progressive country. Don’t tell Japan and Europe is prosperous without English. If this is your assumption therefore you’re wrong. Singapore has 4 languages and Korea is trying very, very hard to study English. Sooner or later China is set to follow. It’s not the Language that makes prosperous countries; it’s their ability to fill a niche in the global economy. Japan, Taiwan and Korea are prosperous because of manufacturing, Singapore and Hong Kong is prosperous because of trade.
Every country has its own story. Since English is economically feasible for the Philippines, why not continue using it? It is our way of saying to the wide world that we are here! Lahat ng nagpost dito marunong mag-Tagalog, but it does not mean by speaking English makes you a lesser Filipino. We should be proud that we are bilingual. If you have only one language, try hard to make it two. If you already have two and still have time, why not try Mandarin? Anyone must never stop improving and reinventing themselves, it’s a tough economy ahead, survival of the fittest. If one should settle for one language alone, but still is economically competitive, I have nothing against him. But please, don’t blame the country or the government if poverty is widespread. If there should we blame, it’s us. Do you want a Car, Comfortable House and Money? Manna stopped pouring a thousand years ago, wake up. If you want these stuffs, you have a choice! Work Hard, Plan Hard and Save Hard. Why bother on improving the entire country, improve yourself first! You are right that in order to progress we have to work hard.
But the problem in this country is not the working hard but the deprivation of it. Wherein, many Filipino have limited choices due to infighting in the country-side, where the majority of the Filipino resides, between the various rebel groups and the government forces. Because of this recurring wars many Filipinos cannot comfortably cultivate their lands or farms which could be a major source of livelihood and a starting point or capital before every Filipino people could enter into other business endeavors. Let us finish these wars and progress will just bloom naturally, like trees and plants in the preserved rain forest. Yes Smile, well said, what you said is true. Infighting in the countryside is one of major problems this country is facing. I do not understand what ideals the rebels are fighting for. Communism is an outdated idea (In exception of China where the Politburo is flagging an image of Mao Tse Tung but running it under a capitalist veil). Who else here can raise hands that the country would be run better by Jo Ma Sison? Would you think it’s better to start the system all over again? NO WAY.
But as far as I know, members must know how to live and survive, but they are taught the wrong way. They claim sustenance from extorting business, torching them if they refused to pay (Though I am not from Mindanao I know how the owner of Weena Bus cried on prospects of closing his business because of repeated extortion by rebels). It is all about survival and this is the only way they know how. AFP’s budget must be increased. Our Air Force has the lousiest planes and ships in ASEAN although we are a major power in the region, but who refuses? AKBAYAN, Bayan Muna, and LFS to name a few, all Jo Ma’s mouthpiece. They are loud in complaining about rampant corruption, but I wonder where their Pork Barrel did go? Organizing Mass Demonstration? I hope that these Party List organizations should be boycotted the next election. But let me tell also, the problem is still… choice. If your place has no progress, has war and torn, what’s the best way to do? Well, find life on another place! Mindanao is not Gaza Strip, still have plenty of places to go, work and live. Bottom line it’s still us. We cannot make the Philippines prosperous without starting from ourselves (Wow! This is very OFF topic, ill stop replying except when a militant goes under my post and the philippine s is known for its CORRUPTION AND GRAND STANDING!!!
If our country is rich, I bet we need not to highly regard English language that much. It is a shame that we need to use English as our tool out of poverty. Every Filipino individual must be forced in schools to learn how to speak English so to prepare himself to be exported as OFW in the future. Thanks but no thanks to Gullas' Bill.
maganda ang bansang pilipinas at isa sa pangunahing negosyo na nagpapaunlad dito ay turismo,kung ang mga pilipino ay makakaintindi ng simpleng ingles lang maraming banyaga ang di mamomoblema sa kominikasyon.
Sumasapat ang kahusayan ng mga nagtatrabho sa industriya ng turismo at tunay na maipagmamalaki ang galing ng mga ito sa pakikipag-usap sa mga dayuhang turista. Hindi na kailangang lahat ng mamamayan ay piliting maging mahusay magsalita ng wikang Ingles dahil may iba namang ang nais ay mas mapaunlad ang iba pang industriya sa Pilipinas. Halimbawa, pagsasaka, pangingisda, lokal na pagnenegosyo na hindi na kailangan isalin sa salitang English. E kung walang katumbas na salita sa Ingles ang salitang tagalog, pwede namang hiramin ang salitang Ingles. Ang tunay na makabayan, hindi nagpapaalipin sa wikang dayuhan.
tama ka!!!
kaya lang punto ngayon sa bansa natin ay ito... bumili ka lang ng lason pamatay ng salot sa palay nakasulat sa english yung instruction nito,maging ang ordinaryong batas para sa lansangan..marami pang iba..
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Anonymous
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2009-03-03 01:41
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E hindi naman porke hindi mahusay magsalita ng Ingles ang mga pinoy ibig sabihin ignorante na sa lahat ng bagay. Grabe ka naman manlait ng mga kababayan mong magsasaka at mangingisda. Anong akala mo, porke nakasulat sa English e wala na silang common sense na magpatulong na kumuha ng translator? E kung nakasulat na sa tagalog e di lalong madali sana at nakadagdag pa ng trabaho sa transalator.
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Anonymous
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2009-03-03 19:43
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di ko nilalait kasi magsasaka ako at ang magulang ko...kaya lang yung ibang ordinaryong magsasaka di naiintindihan yong english kaya nga dapat sa murang idad pag aralan na kasi wala namang mawawala sa pagkatao bagkos matututo pa..
salamat
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Dimasalang
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2009-03-03 03:01
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kaya nga nagkaganon,kasi sa mga taong ayaw tangkilikin ang sariling wika,kaya ang nangyari pati pagsunod kung paano gamitin yung lason,sa ingles..
mga kababayan,ala sa ingles yun,bakit ang aleman,fransya,hapon,ang ginagamit nila sa pagtuturo sarili nilang wika,pero maunlad sila.syempre nagaaral silang magingles pero ang empasis nila sa sarili nilang wika,kung di tayo gagamit nito at magpapaunlad ng sarili nating wika,sino pa? si akimoto akira ba o si johan strauss,si juan dela cruz na nakasakay sa carabao,,,este kalabaw pala, mabuhay po kayo!!!
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Aren
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2009-03-03 18:51
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agree ako dito...
nandito ako ngaun sa riyadh... at sasabihin ko sa inyo, hindi lahat nang naka sulat sa kanila dito eh naka english... bagkus ay arabic. kahit sa mga directions sa kalsada, arabic. kahit nga makipag usap ka sa kanila, arabic. mabibilang ang marunong mag english. siguro nga kung tutuusin, nasa istilo at pamamaraan nang pagtuturo nang ating edukasyon ang dapat tutukan nang mga kinauukulan... ano ba ang nakikita nating pagkukulang sa sistema at paghahatid nang edukasyon ang dapat baguhin at dapat pagbutihan pa?
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Anonymous
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2009-03-05 20:18
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ditorin sa middle east yung gamot na pine prescribe ng doktor sa ibat ibang lengwahe yung lahat ng detalye tungkol sa gamot pero wala ang wika natin,paano kung di kami marunong umintindi ng english kawawa lalo tayong mga pinoy.kaya ok lang na ituro at pagbutihin pa ang pagtuturo sa kabataan natin.
Kahit na sa US ako nakatira ngayon, hindi nangangahulugan na nagpapaalipin ako sa wikang dayuhan. Hindi rin nangangahulugan na nagpapaalipin ako sa mga dayuhan. As a matter of fact, ako pa ang boss dito sa trabaho ko. Ang topic dito ay kung dapat na English ang gawing medium ng instruction sa mga paaralan sa Pilipinas. And the reason behind the suggestion eh para maging globally competitive ang mga pinoy.
Sang-ayon ako na gawing English ang medium of instruction. Kahit na hindi top of the line ang mga teachers ko noon, at least they must have done it good enough. In my opinion, dapat lang suriin nilang maigi ang pagtuturo ng English. Batay sa information ni Mareng Winnie, may mga bagay na dapat pagtuunan ng pansin ang mga nasa Bureau of Education para magkaroon ng improvement ang pagtuturo ng English language. We all know na mahirap maki pag compete kahit na sa Pilipinas kung kapos sa resources ang pamilya. Kung mayaman kayo at may negosyo, perhaps you can say you don't need to know how to speak the English language. How would you enjoy watching an english movie? Paano mo maiintindihan ang mga nasa menu ng mga class na restaurant na kakainan mo? Mas marami ang mahirap kesa mayaman sa Pilipinas. Those of you who wish they know english enough to apply for a job sa Pilipinas or abroad please raise your hands. I bet you mas maraming kamay ang nakataas. I wish I know more foreign languages para mas enjoy ko ang mas maraming bagay. Here in California, I wish I know more Spanish language para makapag converse ako sa mga Mexicans. I don't need those other foreign languages pero I can tell you that any added knowlege like these offer nothing negatives but all positives. Sorry I digressed. Finally, it is better to know and speak the English language well than not. At least know it well enough. My mother only attained a third grade education. she has a very heavy accent when she speaks in english. so heavy that my daughters make fun of her(with her consent) when we get together. She was able to communicate with american paramedics when she was taken to the hospital in an emergency. Luckily, she can speak enough English. She traveled to USA by herself from the Philippines. She worked as a baby sitter for awhile. This was when she had to force herself to learn how to speak English. To compete. wish mo lang yun na country natin rich.. eh nde nga eh.. kaya mayroon Gullas Bill.
Try to encourage students to speak in english at the early stage para ma fluent sila later on. eh ako nga bobo naman sa english eto nakaraos din gumanda ang englis ko dahil sa aking persistent na matuto at nde lang matuto gumaling pa lalo, hehehe joke lang po Gina, Did you know english is the only common language globaly? Most of the industrial nations are english speaking people? If you only managed to speak a single language, especially the global economy - you'll get lost and you you will be jobless. My prespective is to implement english subject on first grader to acclamimate themself in the future.
Please focus on the issue folks. Don't take my comment personally. Marunong akong magsalita ng 4 na wika (English, Tagalog, Danish, Norwegian at German) kaya alam ko ang sinasabi ko kapag nagkokomento ako. Nakakalungkot na maraming hindi kuntento sa sistema ng edukasyon sa Pilipinas na kailangan pang gumawa ng batas na sapilitang ituturo ang wikang english kabaligtaran ng mga bansang pinuntahan ko at doon pa nag-aral ng wika nila na sapilitang ituturo sa schools nila. Sabagay kanya-kanyang opinyon iyan, pero kung talagang sa palagay mo Ok lang ipilit mo para sa lahat ang batas ni Rep. Gullas, all I can say is I am lucky I didn't have to be forced to learn English at home and at school. And for that I enjoyed learning different languages and at the same time, I am so proud I am a Filipino na marunong mag-tagalog. (Nakakaintindi din ako ng Bisaya, Bicolano at Ilocano, fyi)
nasasabi mo iyan kasi marunong ka na magsalita ng 4 na wika ba kamo??papaano kapag ang mga estudyante sa pilipinas na lumaki na tagalog lang ang alam saan sila pupulutin??may tatanggap ba sa kanila sa trabaho?kahit nga guwardiya sa atin kailngan marunong ng konting ingles..umuwi ka sa pinas magturo ka ng tagalog sa school lahat tagalugin mo lahat math science atpb tingnan ko lang kung saan pupulutin yung estudyante mo..peace
Vic, I know what I am talking about. I am only pointing out we cannot force everybody to take a pill that is only working for a few.
I disapprove to say that one will be jobless abroad if he/she can't speak English. It always depends on the language of the country you will visit. MOTHER TOUNGE WILL ALWAYS RULE. Don't expect Frechmen, Russians and Arabians will speak always to you in English if you wish to find job nor visit their country. Ms. Gina,
It is not the use of English per se. We cannot use much English in France, Japan, or even in other European countries. But neither can we use Tagalog, right? The whole point is where ever we are in the world we have to adapt to the language where we live. And we have to learn that language. English is a form of the universal or compromise language in the world where people can understand each other. And I guess we need that. I've been to the U.S. and they were surprised at how good we can speak the language. I'd been to Japan and as much as I want to interact with them, the language barrier was too much. Another issue, what is our "mother tongue?" Even Tagalog is been twisted by national news organizations to use Cebuano terms. The question then is do we need to adapt to the global need. I'm proud to be a Cebuano. And speaking Cebuano does not make me less a Filipino. But I need to adapt. Because you see, my job interviews have always been in English. And I got to travel for free because of this ability. hindi po ba acclimate instead of acclamimate
They should also teach those kids how to spell correctly.....my prespective? my lord!
Why don't you check first what you have just posted? Hypocrite!
Dear Ms Gina,
How can you help alleviate the flight of OFW? Are you in anyway working and helping the Philippines? Have you contributed to our economy? The reason that we were able to work overseas and away from our family because we can communicate in English. And for the different nationals working in a projects the only way to communicate and ensure safety of the job and delivery at least somebody should speak English. The jap, koreans, malaysians and filinos, imagine the differnt people..english is our language. And if you have something to share please do so, so that I'll come back to the Philippines and work with you. Dear Gilbert
I have always been proud of our country's OFW's and I only wish them all the best best treatment and benefit they deserve from everyone. I have nothing against learning English Laguage, what I only find disturbing is making it mandatory in form of a law. We have Bilingual Education already in Public Schools, I think that should have been enough. But times have changed, OFW's are now the main market of our economy so I cannot help but relate this bill into their pligt. Sana nga makatulong at maging effective tool sa education system natin ang batas na malapit na maipasa yata sa Senado. These are just my views. Thank you and regards. I believe you have misconstrued the use of English for Filipinos. If you are aware there are only about 8 Million recorded Filipinos who are working abroad as OFWs who, I believe, won't get hired if they could not speak English.
And, the fact that our country is the third English-speaking country in the world, in terms of population, shows that the number of OFWs abroad is just an additional on top of those who are actually speaking English in the country! Some of us do not understand the fact that we cannot use Filipino or speak our regionalised dialects when we are outside the country especially when we are speaking with other nationals. If we want to get projects, jobs (e.g. call centre jobs) or integrate ourselves with the rest of the world, why do we have to cease improving and let other nationals grab the opportunities instead? I certainly don't agree na dapat magaling tayong mag salita ng English para umunlad ang ating bansa... screw that Gullas' bill.
presently, nandito ako sa LUXEMBOURG a french speaking country, sa katunayan mahirap makapasok ng trabaho kung hindi ka marunong ng french, german and luxembourgoise. English is nothing here... ang tanong bakit maunlad ang kanilang bansa.... ayosin nyo muna ang ugali nating mga pinoy na puro corrupt. lahat ng tao sa atin puro mag nanakaw lalo na yong marurunong mag salita ng ENGLISH...buti wala ako dyan! It is a pity Melvin that you are not able to comprehend what ate Winnie was saying kse it is in English. First of all, did you read the Gullas Bill in its entirety? If not, please do not condemn it before you do. Second, how can you strongly object against a researched and evidenced base study? If you have a good command of English comprehension, you will understand why.
Third, why do you use an outlyer such as France or an exception to decide for the whole? Ed SOrry for you anonymous! 120% naiintindihan ko,ang di ko maintindihan, bakit kailangan pa ang bill na yan? kung gusto mong maging magaling mag english "mag aral kang mabuti" sorry kung nag tatag-alog ako di ko kasi maintindihan english ng pinoy. in fact, nag english ako dito pag kausap ko "native english".sure, isa ka sa corrupt....
di mo maintindihan ang english ng pinoy? bakit ano ka ba? The English language, with its many varieties or registers, Filipino English being one, is not owned by merely one race anymore. panu ka uunlad niyan kung nagtatangi ka?
Melvin, you missed the point and you just proved how important the bill is.
Are you using Tagalog in Luxembourg? You had to learn French and other languages, right? English is seen as the most common to adapt to most countries. Not all but most. It simply is a question of what language must we learn to adapt to the global demand. If its Mandarin, then Mandarin. If Japanese then Japanese. It is not English per se but the most common skill necessary to adapt. Try to use Tagalog over there and come back to us if it works. OMG,, am very sorry for you,,,,,why should i use tag-alog nandito ako sa french speaking country wala ngang english dito ha!ha! sa pinas mag tatag alog ako di ako mag english....again screw that BILL that's not the answer sa kahirapan ng bansa...advice ko ayosin nyo yong ugaling puro magnanakaw at matutu tayong gumamit ng sariling atin para tayo umunlad.
dont tell me na ikaw lang ang pinoy dyan...kawawa ka naman.
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bisaya_gyud
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2009-03-04 18:22
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Melvin says,"...matutu tayong gumamit ng sariling atin para tayo umunlad."
Great words from someone who is not in the Philippines and not even using his own language. If you were here Melvin, and used everything that is "sariling atin", and be successful about it, I'd probably back you up. You truly want us to believe you haven't spoken a word of English since you've been there? Ever since? If you say "yes", then I say "Wow!" You're a greater liar than we've been accused of.
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Anonymous
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2009-03-05 21:15
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you are out of order
what's the point? Melvin, the point is that you needed to adapt.
By learning and using their language, you adapted because you had to. Do you really need to ask, "why should I use Tagalog"? I tried to learn Japanese and Chinese but found English to be more helpful to me. If you elevated your status without English, then praise God! But as Winnie agrees, "we need better competency in English in order to be globally competitive." If you can convince us that French or other European languages is the answer and can also enable us to compete globally, then make your argument properly in specifics and not general terms. Then I can tell my students to stop learning English and use your proposed language. I haven't read what that Melvin said, but I want to react to what you said. Definitely Tagalog/Filipino can't be used in places where it's not spoken. But it's best to BEGIN learning English and other languages in your own language first. That's the point of Winnie's example of the experience in Kalinga. Please read that part of her article again. Then you can proceed to MASTER a foreign language where that language is used as medium of instruction. This is possible in a general curriculum that uses Filipino as medium of instruction in other subjects, like math, science, etc.
The important thing for education is to learn concepts and acquire knowledge and skills. The best medium to use is that which one uses in everyday life, so that what you learn in class can easily be integrated in your day-to-day experience. Having said that. Physics and math are more advanced in South Korea and Japan than in the Philippines because they use their own respective languages to learn them. It's not really difficult to understand. They don't have to grapple with a foreign language at the same time trying to grasp concepts and applying them. Filipino of course is not the mother tongue of most Filipinos, but it's the next best thing. Just like in Antonio Banderas' Spain, where they have other languages like Catalan, Basque and Galician. But they all speak Castilian, known to outsiders as Spanish. Filipino is definitely closer to other Philippine languages than English can ever hope to be. It's also more widely spoken in the Philippines (because it's much easier to learn) than English. After the first three or four years of elementary, I believe we all can use Filipino as medium of instruction. Filipino is best placed as the medium of instruction in the Philippines, at least after the primary grades. English could have been sometime ago, but things are different now. As to the lack of scientific and other terms in the Filipino lexicon, that's a no brainer. We can always adopt and adapt from other languages, like English has. By the way, didn't you know that George W Bush once claimed that the French did not have a word for 'entrepreneur'. Such an a!#hole. By the way, the Japanese word for beer is 'biru'. See what I mean? We don't even have to invent a word for 'square root' when teaching math in Filipino, Let's just adopt it. We don't even have to re-spell it. Just because you use a foreign word that you have to use the whole language as well. That's not reality. Yes, we all must learn English, but it's best taught as a second or even a third language, just like in the most developed countries in the world. Finally, Bisaya sad ko bay/day (sori, di ko kahibalo kun bayi ka o laki). Ayaw'g kahadlok kun himoon ang Filipino isip medium of instruction. Dili buot pasabot niana nga kalimtan na lang nato ug basta-basta ang atong yanong sinultian. Taga-Mindanaw ko, pero dinhi sa amoa, sagol ang mga sinultian mao gani nga di mi mahadlok bisan Filipino ang gamiton sa eskwelahan. Makasulti sad kog Ilokano ug dyutay nga Maguindanao. Anad na mi kaayo dinhi. I'm not too ethnocentric or regionalistic to support the Gullas bill just because it's authored by a Cebuano. When it comes to teaching languages, I go for the experts, the professional teachers, linguistics experts and psychologists, the overwhelming majority, if not al, of which are opposed to the Gullas bill. Hinaut unta masayod ka. Huna-hunaag maayo. Yes, we need english language to survive.
But it has been a long history that we are so dependent on the foriegn economy. We should not stick to this forever. We have our own country. We have our own people. And certainly have our own language. If Japan have been indenpendent. why not we? Yes, we really need english badly. In fact i'm working in an American company now here in manila. But we should start the steps now in making the Philippines for the Filipinos. Not for the English speaking foreigners. Not for the Japanese speaking foreigners and etc. Sorry for my foreign friends.... But I have to express this. Thank you.... - Ferdie Ideally it should be our mother tongue that should be the medium of instructions in our schools. Unfortunately we are using most of our technologies, tools and books from foreign source. How can you even make a translation of Kips? KiloPascal,Dyne, and all those similar terms coined by foreigners?
Wether we like it or not, those that are in the colleges now are eyeing if not dreaming of working abroad right after they get their diplomas....I am working now overseas and it is to our own advantage to be well trained in english, it's global job market now. We are not just competing against filipinos for job opportunities, but with indians, pakistanis, africans, and all kind of races. Not unless our country can command an economic clout like Japan or China, we have to be good in a languange that can communicate internationally for our own advantage and qualification. If we can afford just to be in the Philippines and work at home, then let the foreigners learn our language. Reality bites. I think the point here is not making the Philippines for foreigners,but helping Filipinos be more globally-competitive.
I'm in the ESL (English as second Language) teaching field, we cater to Koreans and Japanese students. Most of us dream of going to Korea, Japan,and to other non-english speaking countries. But our applications are mostly denied due to the fact that our country is not known for having english as one of our primary language. If only the government would do something to help Filipino English teachers cope with this problem, it would be really beneficial for most of us. India is now a strong rival when it comes to english. Can u imagine their accent? But they are somehow considered in korea, Thailand and China because their government declares that English is one of their primary language. My point is, there's nothing wrong if we start teaching english to 3rd graders! It doesn't mean losing our language identity,but it simply means global competitiveness. I contradict to your statement that Filipinos are not easily hired because of their competence in teaching the language. I do know as a fact that most Asian countries do not hire Asian people because they prefer the Western more for business purposes. Parents are attracted to send their kids to school knowing that the teachers who will teach their siblings are "whites" not "tans". Filipinos are good teachers and they do make the effort to learn new skills and even take further steps in education to be more competitive. But it is not our competence in English why we don't get hired...it is the "superiority" and "inferiority" complex that these Asian clients have on us FIlipinos.
If you had read between the lines I'm sure you would have understood what I'm trying to say here. Our teaching competence is out of the question! I definitely know that Filipinos are far better English teachers than native speakers. I should know because like what I said I'm in the field of ESL. My point is that the government must do something to establish English as one of our primary language. The problem here is that countries like Korea,Japan, China, and others don't recognize our country as an English-speaking country. Surely they come here to learn the language,but they don't issue working visa to English Filipino teachers.
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allexa
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2009-03-04 00:01
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"...Korea,Japan, China, and others don't recognize our country as an English-speaking country. Surely they come here to learn the language,but they don't issue working visa to English Filipino teachers."
> FYI these countries DO issue working visa not only to (licensed) English Filipino teachers; working visas are also issued to any Filipinos holding any degree who graduated from any of the TOP 50 universities in the Philippines. I've been working as ESL/EFL teacher in Taiwan for over 5 years now and same is true with many of my friends. Most of them have been teaching in China and Thailand and others are in Japan, Korea, Indonesia and Singapore. I've also met other Filipinos teaching here and some of them are even teaching in one of the top universities in Taiwan. My former English instructor is also teaching in a university in South Korea. Though some of them weren't teachers in the Philippines nor holding a degree related to English Communication, still they were allowed to teach and issued working visa. I am making a living from teaching English abroad but I don't think that being able to speak English fluently makes me globally competitive. I think being well-educated, skillful, courageous, strongly determined, and possessing the different positive attitudes and behaviors will make you a real competitive individual. Some of the people commented here complained about instructions and labels of products and the nation's laws/constitution being written in English, why not? English is one of our 2 official languages. Obviously, we should learn English. THE MISEDUCATION OF THE FILIPINO
Prof. Renato Constantino, Journal of Contemporary Asia, Vol.1.,No.1 (1970) ….A foreign tongue as a medium of instruction constitutes an impediment to learning and to thinking because a student first has to master new sounds, new inflections, and new sentence constructions. His innermost thoughts find difficulty of expression, and lack of expression in turn prevents the further development of thought. Thus we find in our society a deplorable lack of serious thinking among great sections of the population. We half understand books and periodicals written in English. We find it an ordeal to communicate with each other through a foreign medium, and yet we have so neglected our native language that we find ourselves at a loss expressing ourselves in this language. Language is a tool of the thinking process. Through language, thought develops, and the development of thought leads to further development of language. But when a language becomes a barrier of thought, the thinking process is impeded or retarded and we have the resultant cultural stagnation. Creative thinking, analytical thinking, abstract thinking are not fostered because the foreign language makes the student prone to memorization. Because of the mechanical process of learning, he is able to get only a general idea but not a deeper understanding. So, the tendency of students is to study in order to be able to answer correctly and to pass the examinations and thereby earn the required credits. Independent thinking is smothered because the language of learning ceases to be the language of communication outside the classroom. A student is mainly concerned with the acquisition of information. He is seldom able to utilize this information for deepening his understanding of his society's problems… …English has created a barrier between the monopolists of power and the people. English has become a status symbol, while the native tongues are looked down upon. English has given rise to a bifurcated society of fairly educated men and the masses who are easily swayed by them… ...In exchange for a smattering of English, we yielded our souls. The stories of George Washington and Abraham Lincoln made us forget our own nationalism… I think that strengthening the learning of English and mother tongue "Filipino language" must be of equal importance. Let us not forget that we are Filipinos, and that in order to be fluent with the foreign language, we need to master OURS first. Let us not lose our identity by neglecting the mastery of our own language. Mastery of the English language will come if the education system promotes and enhances correct teaching and learning of English.
If as the professor implies; learning in your mother tongue is the key to imagination and thinking ability then the argument as to the language of instruction being Filipino or English is pointless. It would follow that the young would be taught in their local dialect with both Filipino and English being core subjects. Could the Dept. of Education cope which such a diverse system?
My mother tongue is English. I was born in England; met my wife, an OFW in London; and have children born, raise and educated in the Philippines. Because they learnt English we have a common language. Although I know the odd word of Illoko and Tagalog my kids can still keep me in the dark by speaking Taglish, Text Speak Filipinos are remarkable in their abilty to learn languages; most are tri-lingual. Just look at the comments on this post. From what I have seen of the education system of the Philippines many better funded and "developed" countries could learn a lot. Your teachers are dedicated and students are well, studious. Kids look forward to going to school and have a desire to learn. When it comes to the 3 R's many students are a head of their British and American counterparts, for whom going to school is a boring chore. When my children came to join us in London they were a little concerned that everyone would laugh at their English. In fact like most Filipinos here they are commended on their fluency. It was the exacting standards of their teachers that caused their initial shyness. Not a bad thing. It would be unfair for an Filipino employer to be overly critical of ability in English at interview. Similarly, it would be unjust to sellect on the basis of goods looks or family connections, rather than ability to do the job. If you want to improve education in your country make sure that students don't drop out of education early due to family and financial pressures. Has much of this discussion about Filipino versus English is based on fear of losing cultural identity? Filipinos are "people people"; culture, language, food and belonging to the group (family, school, barangay, town, province or Philipines)is more important than place, wherever they are! You have a strong culture. Like it or not English is the language of international communication. Think of the internet, international conferences, professional journals and Noble Prize ceromonies. If you move to another country you have to learn the local lingo and whilst you do, you might muddle by with a bit of English. By the way if my post contains any mistakes, it is because my wife has gone to bed and I am a victim of the British educational system. At school grammar consisted of learning that "a verb is a doing word" and "a noun is a naming word". Now you know why I admire much of the Philippine education system. Keep it multi-lingual. the problem is us filipinos dont even know our natonal language..our national language is filipino not tagalog..tagalog is just another dialect here in the philippines..we should learn more about our national language,before trying to learn more on foreign languages ...
Ang problema, yung tinatayang Filipino language eh, sa katotohanan, Tagalog! Paano naman yung mga Bisaya, Kapampangan, Bicolano, Ilokano, etc. Ayon sa estadistika, mas maraming nagsasalita ng Bisaya kesa Tagalog. Kaya hindi makatarungan na pilitin ang lahat ng pilipino na matuto ng Tagalog na naka-balatkayong Pilipino.
Filipino is Tagalog. Check your linguists. They would know.
filipino is our national language..made up of dialects such as tagalog,bisaya,ilokano,and even english and spanish etc..many filipinos oftenly mistaken tagalog as our national language..its not..thats why we need to know more about our national language which is filipino before studying other foreign language..
Tama yan na ipromote ang English. Ako nga na nakagraduate ng college nag-aadjust pa rin sa pakikipagcommunicate rito sa ibang bansa. Nabawasan sana ang adjustment stage kung seryoso kong ginamit ang English habang nag-aaral ako. Mother's tounge... para sa akin, anuman ang dialect ng mga kasama natin sa bahay hindi dapat na maging hadlang iyon para gamitin pa rin ang English sa school. Maganda nga iyon na maiimpluwensyahan ng mga nag-aaral ang mga kapamilya nila para magsalita rin ng English. I would suggest na sana magkaroon din ng regular English movie showing para makapulot din ang mga bata ng English terms sa mga movies na napapnood nila.
Malaking tulong ang mga OFWs sa bansang Pilipinas kaya ngayon pa lang hubugin na nating mabuti ang mga susunod na OFWs at isa nga roon ay iimprove ang English communication skills. Let me share an excerpt from Prof. Luis Teodoro's article "Global competitiveness":
"The use of English as a medium of instruction actually helps make that kind of global competitiveness even more difficult, since the knowledge and skills needed have to be transmitted through a language foreign to both teacher and student, which amounts to creating a barrier to communication in the country’s classrooms." eto lang yung punto at kung tutuusin, common sense ito.
ang mga konsepto na pag-aaralan ng mga bata ay kailangang ituro sa kung ano ang kinagisnan nilang wika/dialekto/lengguwahe. kasi kung english hindi nila mauunawaan yun. kasabay niyan, ay ituturo rin naman ang english. pero kahit ang mismong english subject kailangan sigurong ipaliwanag sa "native tongue". tama ka dyan. mas maiintindihan ng bata ang salitang english kung ituturo ito sa mother tongue nya. at habang sa baglaki nya ay lumalawak ang vocabolary words nya at duon nya magagamit ang salitang english. ang pagiging magaling sa salitang english ay hindi palatandaan ng pagiging matalino. may nag tanong paano mo isasalin sa salitang Filipino ang Pascal (N/sg. M) kung iintindihin lang nila ang Newton ay hango sa pangal ng naka imbento ng sukat(unit) n ito hindi lahat ng salita ay kailang mong isalin sa wikang Filipino.
Isa din ako sa mga OFW, pero hindi ko kailangan n maging magaling sa salitaang english. kailangan lang maipahayag mo ang gusto mong sabihin. kung lahat tayo ang iisipin ay ang maka pag abroad. sino pa ang magpapaunlad sa ating bayan. sabi nga ng consultant naming hapon nung nagttrabaho p ako sa NIA. tayo daw mga Filipino ay mas gusto pa ang mag abroad at idevelop ang ibang bansa kesa sa sarili nating bansa. at wag naman po natin ikumpara yung sarili natin sa ibang lahi, dahil mas magaling naman po tayong mga Filipino mag isip kahit hindi magaling mag english. kung nag ttrabaho kayo sa saudi arabia, nakaka hiya naman ikumpara tayo sa India at pakistan. eh hamak talino naman ng mg Filipino kesa sa kanila. kaya mga kapwa ko Pinoy. mahalin naman natin ang bayan n pinag mulan natin... whether we like it or not natural laws will triumph(e.g. law of supply and demand...)it is imperative for teachers in their own specialization to teach their systems laws (current and undiscovered and to harmonize with the laws (the most important is to be factual)... sorry i have no time to translate this to local dialects ( it will be much more effective)
We should also focus in improving our science,technology, & engineering education.
Our people speak better English than of Japan, China, & Germany. But where are we compared to them? It was really unfortunate that not a whole lot of people in the philippines could be fluent speaking a different language other than their own. But, somehow, some where along the way to the school, educators who insists that grade schoolers need not to be taught how to learn to speak good english have totally missed the point in doing so.
I remember when i was attending one of the university in manila in the 70's, that the medium of instruction in class is pure un adulterated english and if you're lucky enough, spanish language will be intertwined with it. However, during those days,an ordinary professor in english will, as always been the case, have attended universities abroad just to learn the dynamics of teaching english in class. But, then of course, in this day and age in manila, this would be considered "taboo" and not realistic, or should i say, no educators with class enough will send their teachers abroad just for the heck of it. Things have changed dramatically in the 21st century, when, most people in the world communicated to each other in languages other than their own. English, some how, have found its way globally without a doubt. If parents want to teach their kids the languages that they grew up with, that was just fine and dandy, that would be good. Teaching them how to speak tagalog, cebuano, capangpangan, ilocano and all of the languages that one could imagined. However, most countries around the world have already started and decided a long time ago, that, in order for you to communicate effectively and convey your message to people around the world would be in english. Unfortunately, they don't seem to know the languages that we have in the philippines. And they couldn't care less. What i was trying to project here in pure simple explanation, was that, english has now become the most used language on the face of the earth. Some countries would even send their best people to the US of A to learn how to speak and write english in response to the growing trend in simple communication between people of the world. However, it is imperative that in order to obtain what we wanted our kids to achieve in terms of speaking and writing english, we must teach the teacher how to convey this knowledge effectively to the students. There is no worse than hearing a teacher asking a grade schooler to "kill the light" rather than asking him or her to simply "turn it off". And lastly, it is never too late to start again to teach english to grade schoolers and expect them to be highly proficient in doing so. Grade schoolers are highly intelligent people, more than you could imagined. Just a thought. It was(did you mean IS)really unfortunate that not a whole lot of people in the philippines could be fluent speaking a different language other than their own. But, somehow, some where along the way to the school, educators who insists(insist is better) that grade schoolers need not to be taught how to learn to speak good english have totally missed the point in doing so.
I remember when i was attending one of the university(try universities) in manila in the 70's, that the medium of instruction in class is(was) pure un adulterated english and if you're lucky enough, spanish language will be intertwined with it. However, during those days,an ordinary professor in english will, as always been the case, have attended universities abroad just to learn the dynamics of teaching english in class. But, then of course, in this day and age in manila, this would be considered "taboo" and not realistic, or should i say, no educators with class enough(enough class maybe better)will send their teachers abroad just for the heck of it. Things have changed dramatically in the 21st century, when, most people in the world communicated to each other in languages other than their own. English, some how(normally written as somehow), have(has is better) found its way globally without a doubt. If parents want to teach their kids the languages that they grew up with, that was(IS is better) just fine and dandy, that would be good. Teaching them how to speak tagalog, cebuano, capangpangan, ilocano and all of the languages that one could imagined(imagine is better). However, most countries around the world have already started and decided a long time ago, that, in order for you to communicate effectively and convey your message to people around the world would be in english( mali ang english mo dito pare). Unfortunately, they don't seem to know the languages that we have in the philippines. And they couldn't care less(could care less kaya). What i was trying to project here in pure simple explanation(pure and simple it is not), was that, english has now become the most used language on the face of the earth. Some countries would even send their best people to the US of A to learn how to speak and write english in response to the growing trend in simple communication between people of the world. However, it is imperative that in order to obtain what we wanted our kids to achieve in terms of speaking and writing english, we must teach the teacher how to convey this knowledge effectively to the students. There is no worse(nothing is better) than hearing a teacher asking a grade schooler to "kill the light" rather than asking him or her to simply "turn it off". And lastly, it is never too late to start again to teach english to grade schoolers and expect them to be highly proficient in doing so. Grade schoolers are highly intelligent people, more than you could imagined(imagine is the correct word). Just a thought. Tagalog na lang next time para mas effective ang pag convey mo ng idea. Not even a nice try, bok. Are you just so fu,,,,ng envious or what? hungry? want a sandwich?
Kung katulad din lang ng english mo ang matututuhan ng mga bata eh wag na lang. Tama na ang isang Alundio sa mundo na nagkakalat ng english kuno. Bulol naman. Tapang ng apog mo bok. Ika nga ng mga hawaiian...You aint got no more nothing!!!LOL !!! Babaw mo 'tol. O ano gusto mo din ng sandwich? Let me know punk!!!
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Alundio Aguilar
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2009-03-05 11:23
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"you ain't got no more nothing?" ha ha ha ha, what the hell did you mean by that?
i have a strong feeling that i could be talking to the real erap here. wouldn't that be something! anyways, i'm sorry for those intelligent folks looking at these mess though. i knew i shouldn't have gotten my self go down so low at your level right now. however, if you happened to be a female rattlesnake maybe i will. by the way, the joke about the "sandwich" was a joke from "journey" that was popularized by the lead guitarist intended for ariel pineda. that wasn't me at all, sorry folks! just a thought. P.S. be happy enough that i even answer your very st,,,,d remark. bye bye erap. have a very pleasant dream, and have that on me, even if it means i have to dish out a lot of money.
#12.1.1.1.1.1
ERAP
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2009-03-05 12:10
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Ayan ka na naman. Wala ka talagang kakupas-kupas...puro bastos.
"you ain't got no more nothing?" ha ha ha ha, what the hell did you mean by that? - BABAW MO TALAGA. SABI KO JUST LIKE HOW THE HAWAIIANS WOULD SAY..'SUS GINOO!!!meaning ganun silang magsalita. GAGO!!! i have a strong feeling that i could be talking to the real erap here. wouldn't that be something! anyways, i'm sorry for (SOORY FOR THOSE - MALI NA NAMAN)intelligent folks looking at these( DID YOU MEAN T H I S ?) mess though. i knew i shouldn't have gotten my self go down so low at your level right now. -WOW NAGPIPILIT KA PA RIN KAHIT BAROK SA ENGLISH HA. TAPANG TALAGA NG APOG MO BOK TRYING HARD KA TALAGA.BULOL KA NAMAN SA ENGLISH. SABI KO NA TAGALUGIN MO NA LANG. however, if you happened to be a female rattlesnake maybe i will. by the way, the joke about the "sandwich" was a joke from "journey" that was popularized by the lead guitarist intended for ariel pineda. that wasn't me at all, sorry folks! just a thought. P.S. be happy enough that i even answer your very st,,,,d remark. bye bye erap. have a very pleasant dream, and have that on me, even if it means i have to dish out a lot of money. SUWERTE MO AT NATUTUWA AKO SA YO. OBVIOUS NA OBVIOUS ANG EXTREME AND EXCRUCIATING STRUGGLE MO SA ENGLISH PERO TRYING HARD KA PA RIN. HANGA AKO SA PERSISTENCE MO. ANG HINDI MO ALAM ....THE SAME PEOPLE YOU ARE TRYING SO HARD TO IMPRESS ARE LAUGHING AT YOUR DUMB ASS. PAHINGA KA NA YOUNG MAN AND MAKE SURE YOU DRINK YOUR MILK BEFORE YOU HIT THE SACK. AKO NAMAN EH IINUMIN KO ANG BLUE LABEL KO. CIAO Mga sir at maam,
Tanong ko lang po sa mga nag-eenglish diyan at kontra sa bill na ito, bakit ninyo ginagamit ang salitang ingles sa pagbibigay ninyo nang unyong opinyon? Dahil ito ba'y mas madali kayo maiintindihan nang nakakarami/high educated people o dun kayo mas komportable? Ito ang suhestiyon ko: 1. Gawing "optional" ang pagaaral ng english at filipino sa paaralan lalo na sa elementarya dahil hindi lahat ng tao ay gustong matutong mag-english at maaring mas gusto nilang pagaralan ang sarili nilang wika ngunit kung sila'y luluwas ng ibang bansa saka sila kukuha ng asignaturang english o linggwahe ng lugar na kanyang pupuntahan, siguro naman halos lahat ay mas gugustuhin na kunin ang asignaturang english para matanggap sa trabaho sa mga kompanya sa loob at labas ng Pilipinas. 2. Sa oras na makarating sa hayskul ang isang bata ay rekwayrd na siyang kunin o pagaralan ang salitang english. 3. Gamitin muli ang librong BALARILA, ang libro kung saan may salitang tagalog at naka-transleyt sa salitang dayuhan tulad ng english. 4. Ituro sa bata ang pagbuo ng pangungusap mula sa salitang tagalog o iba pang diyalektong Filipino tungo sa pangungusap na dayuhan tulad ng english. Maraming pinoy ang marunong ng mga salitang english ngunit nahihirapan sa paggamit ng mga ito dahil hindi nila alam ang katumbas na pangungusap na filipino tungo sa salitang english. 5. palitan ang mga textbook na english at gamitin ang wikang filipino sa pagtuturo nito na nakatransleyt sa wikang english, dahil dito sabay nilang natututunan ang salitang filipino at salitang dayuhan. 6. bumuo ng grupo ng dayuhang guro na dalubhasa sa kanilang wikang ingles at maglibot sa mga paaralan upang kausapin ang mga estudyante gamit ang wikang english upang magkaroon ng lakas ng loob ang mga estudyante habang bata pa sila at hindi sa oras ng kanilang interbyu. dahil dito mas madaling makukuha ng mga bata ang accent ng wikang english at makakatulong sa kanila para maging sanay sa paggamit ng wikang english. 7. magkaroon ang bawat eskwelahan ng mga sinehan o viewing room na ang ipinapalabas ay mga dayuhang pelikula o pelikulang pilipino na ang gamit ay salitang english upang magkaroon pa nang mas malalim na kaalaman sa wikang english at ang halaga at gamit nito sa mura nilang isipan. salamat poh!!!Mabuhay ang Pilipinas!!! Para sa akin wala naman problema kung gawin primary ang english dahil english languages ang nagbigay ng tagumpay sa karamihan sa mga pilipino para marating nila ang kinalalagyan ng bawat isa ngayon.Dahil sa english maraming pilipino ang malakas ang loob mangibang bansa dahil may alam sila sa wikang english.
Kung tagalog lang o ang wikang kinagisnan ang tanging alam ng pilipino tiyak wala pang isang libo ng pilipino ang nasa ibang bansa ngayon dahil syimpre takot lisanin ang sariling bansa(Pilipinas) sa takot na hindi sila maiintindihan ng bansang kanilang pupuntahan gamit lang ang mother tongue(tagalog,waray,ilocano,capampangan,cebuano,bicol atbp.) Kaya mga kababayan pumayag na kayo na gawin english ang medium of instruction sa school dahil sa negosyo pwede naman gamitin ang tagalog at english sa pakikipag komonikasyon sa kliyente,kung pilipino kausap tagalog ang gamitin,kung dayuhan ay inglis at kung dayuhan na marunong ng magsalita ng tagalog,cebuano o anuman natutuhan nilang salita ay yon ang gamitin sa kanila iyon ay kung alam mo rin ang natutuhan nilang salita. Marami sa dayuhan ang marunong ng magsalita ng cebuano dahil asawa nila ay taga Cebu o may negosyo sa Cebu.May mga dayuhan na marunong mag-ilocano dahil asawa o negosyo nila ay nasa Ilocos.Maraming intsik ang marunong ng magbicol dahil ilan dekada na silang nanirahan sa bicol. Kaya para sa akin malaking tulong sa pilipino ang may wastong kaalaman sa pagsasalita,pag-intindi at pagsulat ng inglis. Not many filipinos would be successful enough if they knew nothing about other languages. Even Dr.Jose Rizal is fluent in spanish,english,latin,deutsch,french languages that help him becomes adoptable to any countries he decided to stayed or visit. If you can learn more languages that will be your intellectual wealth. Most of japanese,chinese,koreans,german,french etc. that can not speak english are afraid to visit other countries because of their fear that other countries won´t understand them.Only those who are brave enough to take the challenge of going out of their country even they know nothing of other languages you can see them visit other countries but most of them travel by groups and with one or two of them can speak the native languages of the country they visit. Bakit grupo-grupo ang mga hapon,intsik,korean na hindi marunong magsalita ng english sa pagbisita sa ibang bansa hindi gaya ng mga pilipino na kese-hodang mag-isa lang basta may alam sa english sapat na yan para maging malakas ang loob harapin ang hamon ng kapalaran sa ibang bansa. Kaya wag na masyadong dibdibin ang sinabi ni Gat Jose Rizal na ang hindi magmahal sa sariling wika ay mas malansa pa sa isda dahil mismo si Gat Jose Rizal ay maraming alam na lengguwahe ng iba´t-ibang bansa. Higit pa sa malansang isda ang pilipino na pa inglis-inglis pa kahit na ang kausap naman nya ay puro pilipino...diyan applicable ang salitang malansa o hipokrito/hipokrita.Pero minsan ay hindi rin natin maiwasan ang di gumamit ng dayuhan salita dahil may mga salitang english na walang katumbas sa tagalog kaya napapaingles na lang. So common sense na lang at pang-unawa sa kausap dahil may mga pilipinong hirap talaga sa pagtatagalog o pag english dahil hindi sila nabihasa dyan dahil hindi yan ang kanilang priyoridad sa buhay. Ika nga maraming klase ang tao,may mang-mang,may matalino,may mayaman,may mahirap. I support the used of english in school as medium of instruction in all subject except in pilipino subject na magtuturo sa pagbasa,pagbilang,pagsulat sa wikang pilipino o tagalog. Nakakalungkot isipin na natanim sa isipan ng mga 'Pilipino' na kapag hindi ka marunong mag-english eh bobo na. Mahina na ang ulo. Aalipustahin na agad kapag ang english grammar ay mali. Sa totoo lang maraming Pilipino diyan sa atin at dito sa abroad na nagmamalaki na magaling silang magsalita ng english pero kung pakikinggan mo ng husto ang grammar eh mali naman. Dito ako sa Switzerland nakatira napakaliit na porsiyento ng populasyon dito ang marunong magsalita ng english pero kapag kausap mo naman sila eh may sense ang mga sinasabi. Di tungkol sa mga artista, kung sino ang mayroong pera o ano pa man na walang katuturan na tema. Lalo na diyan sa industriya ng mga artista, ay naku magaling lang mag-english, syempre nag-aral sa abroad o international school, eh matalino na tingin ng mga tao. Magagaling ngang mag-english eh tanungin mo tungkol sa technology, general info, etc. eh walang alam. Tanungin mo tungkol sa mga tsismis ng artista ay naku alam na alam.
tama ka doris, dito rin ako sa swiss. I have 4 children but I talk to them tagalog. nakatapos ako ng collage sa pinas(Batch 96) and I always teach them to speak english but I want them to speak tagalog para di sila maloko pagnagbakasyun sila sa pinas.
Mayaman ang Pilipinas sa populasyon kaya mahirap ang karamihan at kontaminado na rin ang ilang bahagi ng kapaligiran at ang krimen palala ng palala.
Ang Tsina mayaman sa populasyon at industriya kaya maraming mahirap at kontaminadong kapaligiran ang bansang iyan.Ang layunin na lang nila ngayon ay mangibang bansa rin magtayo ng negosyo at doon magparami. Ang Japan ay kaunti na lang ang populasyon dahil ayaw na nilang maulit ang nakaraan ng dahil sa sobrang dami ng populasyon nila noon,ang nag-udyok sa kanilang emperor na manakop na lang ng ibang bansa dahil wala na silang mapagkunan ng mga pangangailangan nila para matugunan ang sangkaterba nilang populasyon.Hindi naman sila pwedeng mag OJW o magtayo ng negosyo sa ibangbansa dahil ilan lang sa kanila ang marunong ng salita ng ibang bansa at gaya ng mga intsik mas gusto pa nila ang mang-alipin keysa sa magpaalipin.Resulta sila ang sinisisi ng madugong digmaan ng WW2. Ang India,Pakistan nagmamigrate na rin kung saan-saan bansa dahil sa dami rin ng populasyon nila wala na rin silang makitang trabaho sa sarili nilang bansa kaya tuloy marami ang kakumpetensiya ng mga OFW sa paghanap ng mapapasukan trabaho at ginaya na rin nila ang Pilipinas sa paraan ng pagtuturo at lumalabas na karamihan sa mga bombay ay magaling sa matematika kaya naman sa kanila ngayon ang dagsa ng mga technical companies investor dahil masipag at walang reklamo sa trabaho ang mga bombay kahit na minsan ay hindi na ayon sa international labor code wala lang silang hinaing ang mahalaga may trabaho sila at may suweldo sila kahit kaunti. Noon ang Germany,Austria,Switzerland karamihan wala rin mga trabaho dahil ang mga nasa puwesto ay mga jews,french,russians,english kaya naisipan ni Hitler na bigyan trabaho ang mga aleman sa pamamagitan ng pagliligpit sa mga itinuturing nyang kalaban ng NAZI. Every country has its own history,atrocities,chaos,civil war,slavery whatever past that mirror the presents lives of their people. History could repeat itself...with so many jobless,crisis due of over population,hunger and crimes the threat of WW4 could be the end of generation of this planet earth. Sa dami ng tao walang trabaho,walang makain ang isip nila ay huramentado kaya malamang magkaroon ng worldwide war tiyak kawawa naman nito ang mga buntis. Kaya sa mga ayaw magdusa kung sakali mag giyera,wag na magpabuntis dahil kawawa lang ng magiging buhay nyo. Kaya pala madali natalo ng allied forces ang Nazi dahil pag hindi makapagsalita ng russian,english french or italian ay pinapatay noon. About japanese invasion,those who can not speak spanish,english or their native dialect are japs kaya inililigpit rin ng mga pilipino at amerikano ang mga tao noon na hindi nila maintindihan ang sinasabi. Ganon lang kadali nila madetect kung sino ang mga hapon at native pilipino. Kung magkakaroon ng WW4 hindi na man to man ang laban,kundi bomb to bomb na dahil halos lahat na yata ng mga bansa may mga reserves ng nukes. I believed the end of this world is near,the time to breath is short,the wholeworld is all hungry,tired and mad.The end is near,those who can not speak english can not enter Kingdom of Heaven(just kidding).Amen I think we Pilipinos or Philippines, would be still globaly competitive, if we concentrate on improving the knowledge on technology, engineering, talent in sports and other academic subjects. I am not saying that english is not important but english is just one of ingredients if we want us, Pilipinos, to be still competitive to that so called global market. English is just one of the criteria.
I personally believe that using "mother tongue" (local dialect) as a medium of instruction will help the student understand the lesson (as the books and other educational materials are written in English).
But if their purpose is to improve the "English proficiency" of the students by using English as a medium of instruction I think there would just be a minimal effect. In my opinion there is even a greater problem to deal with than this (we all know what that is)...Oh well to stay in the topic we all know that we have to improve the quality of education first, improve the quality of English education to be more specific. When I say quality I mean excellent(not mediocre) English teachers and teaching materials. Excellent teachers produce excellent students. The cycle will never end, if we keep on producing mediocre students we will yield inferior educators... Walang masama na ang medium of instruction ay ang native tounge o english man. Ang tanong ko lang may budget ba tayo (Pilipinas) na itranslate ang lahat ng libro sa mother tounge. How many dialects do we have? Sa isang section masisiguro ba natin na pare-pareho ang mother tounge ng mga bata?
Ang mga bata madaling mag adopt sa environment. Ang pinaka mahusay na paraan ay ayusin at bigyan diin ang kalidad at paraan ng pagtuturo maging english man o lengua franca. O hayan english, tagalog at may kasama ng salitang latin ang komento ko ha. Nasa magulang na yun kung anong gustong ipamulat sa mga bata. Sila naman ang magpapaaral eh. Sila ang gagastos. Make it optional. Sila ang magsusugal sa kinabukasan ng kanilang mga anak. Sila ang sisisihin kung sakali. The best would be to put up a national experiment in all regions where both medium of instruction are available in schools and let the parents decide which one they will let their kids join. Then they (educators) could also evaluate the effectiveness of mother tounge versus english. This option should be clearly made and communicated to parents noting what percentage wants the mother tounge or english. Bale referendum na rin. I say the overall quality of education needs to improve. Study more geography history, science etc... No matter the language in which the material is presented. We are sobra behind other countries in the areas mentioned above!
I don't understand why up to this very day english as the medium of instruction is still debatable. Why there is this Gullas bill? The bottom line, this law should be passed without hesitancy. During the Marcos era (this was one good thing that happened in his administration) that the medium of instruction was in english. REGRETFULLY, it was changed. I wasn't sure whether or not it was under Cory or Erap when the law was changed to Tagalog. Whenever Cory is being interviewed now a days even before, she would always respond in english so, undoubtedly, the law was changed in Erap's watch. Obviously, he had a problem speaking the english language so therefore changed it.
Our lawmakers should be reminded that we are living in a fast-paced, fast-changing world where every single country in the world remain competitive on anything they do. And us Filipinos should be globally competitive including in the english department. Mr. Gullas, what made you think that learning the english language (on all school levels)or imposing the english as the medium of instructions would us make Filipinos less of "makabayan"? While I respect our hero, Dr. Rizal's passage, "ang hindi marunong magmahal sa sariling wika ay higit pa sa malansang isda.." I'm sorry but I felt he was contradicting that line, as he was a LINGUIST himself. Not only he learned to speak, write Tagalog but he also learned to write and speak other languages (e.g. english, spanish, german, etc.) during his life time - which means Filipinos in general or otherwise, are not LIMITED to learning other languages. The more language we know, the better. KNOWLEDGE IS POWER! Remember, we Filipinos need to move forward NOT BACKWARD. There is one thing that I hate about us Filipinos, we like to oppose and opposed on things that is actually beneficial to us. To all Filipinos - LET'S ALL SUPPORT the returning of the medium of instructions in English. English should be taught in all school levels (public (or private)) starting in Grade III or even earlier and onwards (no ifs, no buts). I know in Kindergaten in some private schools english is already being taught w/c is good). I HOPE PGMA WOULD SIGN THIS INTO LAW ASAP and again, there should be no question about it. I think English is an international language and thus useful to learn for education and business. Pilipino is still being formed from the many dialects in the Philippines and not enough books are written in it to make it an educational language for the modern world. It is more of a social language among Filipinos. However, there should be a choice to choose which language for education and some schools can offer the option. For those who like internationalism, pick English whereas nationalists can choose Pilipino. Until we write more in Pilipino, as an educational language, it has its limitations till then.
I believe that English is necessary in the Education system. As what I've learned by being a programmer, you will not be able to communicate with other programmers from other countries without knowing English.
Then again, if they are arguing that we need to increase our English proficiency, I assume that in general English is just a part of the "bad education system" we have. Also, sorry saying this, but, more Filipinos are becoming more stupid every year. So it's not learning English or language itself. It's the whole education system. Kanya kanya na lang diskarte, diyan naman tayo magaling eh. Di tayo pwedeng magkaintindihan. Yung mga private schools na gustong mag offer ng english based instruction, go ahead. Yung makaka afford magpaaral ng anak dun sa mga ganung schools, go ahead! Mag designate ng iilang public schools pero province na english based instruction. Ngayon, yung mga nag iisip na makabayan sila at ayaw nilang matuto ng english eh di dun kayo sa Filipino based instruction na schools. Yun naman nangagarap na makapangibang bayan balang araw, go kayo sa english based school. O di ba ang saya saya?
It is sad that the native toungue, Pilipino, has not evolved much to a level other that it can universally convey ideas of science, engineering, economics, math --- those disciplines that can build a nation its people into a superpower. --- At best, Pilipino has always been morphing more into the showbiz idiom, which speaks a lot about our priorities.
Yes, I go for English because at the current state of our Pilipino language illiteracy, courtesy of the quack-academecians and PhDs of DECS, it would not hurt much even if your kid breeze through life not knowing Pilipino. He can be better off and still get ahead of the rest. The Learning environment is the real problem our children has to face for generation to come. Our policy maker that means the government are less competent and ineffective in dealing with our children's education since after our so called independence from the American since 1945. If our children has an abysmal performance in English that means they are also left behind in other subjects.
Here are some problems why our children has difficulty learning the basics. 1. Poverty with roots in corruption 2. Teachers are paid less, has to teach average 70 student per classroom. 3. Classrooms are so dilapedated there is no comfort for kids to learn. 4. Some teachers are incompetent to teach on their subject matter. 5. There is no one on one communication or little follow up if a student is catching up to learn. 6. Most parents are not helping their childrens with their homework. 7. Our policy maker are more concerned about having their children going to the best private school. 8. Our policy maker don't care about the Filipino in general, they want them to stay stupid and naive so they can vote for them to stay in power. 9. Our policy maker believe in caste system that the poor remain poor in generation to come. 10. Our Politician and policy maker are to blame for the poor academic performance of our children. It don't matter what language to speak as a medium of instruction, If you are articulate in mother tounge chances are you speak well in English as well. It is all about practice, practice and practice. Filipino Children should not be left behind specially the destitute and the helpless, they are all capable of learning. Pangarap kailan man ay di na makamit. Kapag ang isang kaugalian ay di mapalitan. Kung meron man isang mabuting halimbawa sa kapaligiran bakit di gayahin kung itoy ikabubuti ng sambayanan. Bakit di gayahin ang mabuting halimbawa ng mga Chinoy, Korean at Kano na namumuhay sa ating bayan. I'm a Bisaya. For me learning Tagalog just adds to my burden as additional study. Speaking the dialect or learning Tagalog does not make me less a Filipino. Learning Tagalog has not helped me at all in my career but English does. I can understand Tagalog, I can speak it fairly well. But that is all there is to it. No business enrichment. No added value. It is unfair for us speaking dialects to have to learn Tagalog. It only burdens us more. Even the Visayan term "kawatan" is being used as Tagalog. Then why learn Tagalog at all. I'd rather spend it trying to learn English. But I'm proud of my Visayan dialect. Tagalogs have less to learn because they practice it. For us, we have to learn it practice it. I know. It's the same situation I was in when I tried to learn Chinese.
e kung yung mga Hapon at Koreano na maayos pa sa Pilipinas ang kalagayan ay nag susumikap matuto ng english tayo pa kaya?..akoy isang pinoy na nasa ibang bansa at alam ko kung gaano kahalaga ang linguaheng english para umangat sa trabaho. Sana itoy bigyan halaga ng ating Pamunuan.
I am infavor of the said bill but we should not focus only on english as a medium of instruction to compete or to be a world class worker. There so many factors to be considered to have a quality education. One is the process in hiring of new teachers spicifically in secondary where it should be by major not by politicians. What is the need of the school rather than the need of the politicians. DepEd should be independent from politics. Principals and supervisors specifically in secondary must have the skills on how to manage the schools: academic or physical aspects.Education planners should focus on the input and output rather than result on NAT where teachers have to review classes for so many days forgeting reasons why ther is NAT. Malnutrition is also one factor. Poverty is another one. Can we force the students to speak english if their stomach is empty?
Yes, panahon na siguro para paunlarin natin ang ating communication. We can not avoid english anyway, since it is also our constitution written in english, and all things you can see in Philippines and other countries. It is the right time to adopt our selves to the reality of development and we must do it.
Sana nga, medium of instruction na natin yan, starting from early age in school and mandatory in high school and college. Kailangan talaga natin yan. Di naman ito ibig sabihing mawawala ang ating wika, but we have to move on with the new era of competition. Siya rin lang na lahat halos ay English ang makikita, road sign, placards, ads, internet, games at halos lahat ay english na. Kasi, mahirap ding itagalog ang ibang internationally recognized words, sa totoo lang. Kaya dahil nahihirapan tayong magsalita ng English, nagiging Tag-lish tuloy tayo....lalo pang nakakasama sa ating mahal na wika!!! This is not just about English VS Tagalog/Filipino as language of instruction. This has to do more with the methodology we use in our educational system. Quality Education For All through Multilingual Education, as mandated by UNESCO and other multilateral institutions is what we should be aiming at. By multilingual education, we zero in on the use of Mother Tongue as medium of instruction in the primary years, then gradually move into the language of wider communication, and eventually English. We want EVERY Filipino child to receive quality education, by banking on what they know (using their mother tongue) then bridge to the unknown (the lingua franca, the national language and English). We are also aiming for Filipinos to be linguistically rich by being good in their mother-tongue (which is NOT Tagalog or Filipino for the 70% of the population, there are STILL 168 other Filipino languages), their lingua-franca, the national language Filipino, and English. We want Filipino learners to efficiently and effectively engage their world around them, and the wider world out there. Mother-based Multilingual Education is geared for that end. We want critical thinking Filipinos who can speak out their minds, be it be in their mother tongue, or in the lingua franca, or in Filipino, or in English. The Gullas Bill DOES NOT aim at this. It short-circuits the learning of the child, by introducing English early on, the FOURTH language for MOST Filipinos. The intention is good - to be a proficient English speaker - but the methodology is VERY POOR. It subtracts the child's first language, and eventually his heritage. Multilingual education, on the other hand is based on research and sound methodology. It's quality education FOR ALL. Not just the chosen few. It empowers, as it gives the child the systematic way of learning. The child becomes multilingual and can communicate well, be it in the motehr tongue, the lingua franca, the national language or in English. It's additive, not subtractive. If there is a GULLAS Bill, there also is THE MULTILINGUAL EDUCATION AND LITERACY BILL by Rep. Magtanggol Gunigundo. This is in support of the Quality Education For All initiatives by UNESCO, SEAMEO and other multilateral institutions. Check: www.unescobkk.org OR sil.org
English MUST be the medium of instruction used in the Philippines. I am presently teaching in a college here in Bangkok and I witnessed firsthand the advantage that Pinoys have because of our skills in speaking and writing English.
The mother tongue approach is what is used in Thailand, where English teachers teach English in Thai. Students know the rules and grammatical structures BUT they don't know how to apply these rules when speaking. There is no or limited practice. Quoting Mikaela on 2009-03-03 "During the Marcos era (this was one good thing that happened in his administration) that the medium of instruction was in english. REGRETFULLY, it was changed." It think it was the time of Cory when it was changed. I have three kids who don't speak tagalog. I allowed them to be that way because I want them to speak well when they grow up. I want them to be competitive globally. English is our native language in the house. When we are in the malls, people tend to look at us because of the way we talk to each other. We are not rich. My children go to an average school in Metro Manila but they speak and converse well. I believe I am investing my children in a language that will help them be at par with people from the international community when they grow up. Bringing back English as the medium of instruction will do good to our school children. Going back to Winnie Monsod's point on students / pupils in Kalinga, topping in exams does not mean these children are able to communicate fluently. They may understand english but it doesn't mean they can speak that well.
ano kaya mag pasakop na lang tayo sa america. para lahat tayo maging englisero at englisera.ako naman po ay hindi rin gaano magaling sa english. marunong lang ng kaunti kahit paputolputol kahit mali ang gramar sige lng banat parin para sakaling matutu sa english. sa aking opinyon mas angat parin ang pinoy sa ngaun sa pag sasalita ng english kumpara sa mga koreano,chainese at vietnam.ako ay isang OFW dito sa korea ngaun.bago ako mag abroad noun nag alangan ako kasi alam ko na puro sablay ang english ko pero nakaalis parin ako papunta nga dito sa korea nag training kami ng korean language bago kami umalis.siguro dito ako matututo o madadagdagan ung alam ko sa pag eenglis pero mali pala ung inakala ko akala ko madadagdagan ung alam ko sa english pero sila pala ang natutu sa pag eenglish kasi pag hindi nila maintindihan kailangan ko pa e sign languge o sabihin sa korean o kaya mix languge koreanenglish.ung ibang mga engineer, manager at foreman na mga korean mahirap parin intindihin ang english nila.at nalaman ko na marami palang mga koreano sa pilipinas nagaaral ng english.pero bakit mas maunlad ang bansa nila kaysa sa atin?dahil ba sa english.ano ba ang objective natin lahat tayo maging master sa english para maging OFW? maging DH sa HK maging construction worker sa saudi maging factory worker sa taiwan.o para maging doctor,nurs,engineer,manager OK. pero kung maging isang curupt official o politiko wag na lang baka lalo tayong maghirap.
Hi Bisaya, I understand your point of view. I come and grew up in Manila. I got friends from different provinces. Once I told them that it was amazing for me hearing somebody who can speak two dialect. But as you know every country has its own so called 'mother language' which has to be taught at school. It is just happened that it is Tagalog. I am living in Switzerland where people speaks different german dialects. But they have to learn 'high german' which is the language of the German people. So I don't think there is a problem if those children in provinces have to learn Tagalog. It is also a preparation for them, if ever they dream to work in the big city of Manila where Tagalog is the mean of communication.
Hi Bisaya, I understand your point of view. I come and grew up in Manila. I got friends from different provinces. Once I told them that it was amazing for me hearing somebody who can speak two dialects. But as you know every country has its own so called 'mother language' which has to be taught at school. It is just happened that it is Tagalog. I am living in Switzerland where people speak different german dialects. But they have to learn 'high german' which is the language of the German people. So I don't think there is a problem if those children in provinces have to learn Tagalog. It is also a preparation for them, if ever they want to work in the big city of Manila where Tagalog is the mean of communication.
Hello, Doris. I know you do understand. That's why the language itself is just one aspect. Germany probably has better equipped schools in terms of facilities.
Here we are still way, way, behind. That's why as much as we want to learn Tagalog, the environment here is not conducive more more helpful in the learning process. If only we had the same conditions in Germany, less stressful and fully equipped, no karaokes in our neighbors houses, no smoke-belching jeepneys and their abusive drivers, perhaps our children would be able to learn more. Ako'y nanlulumo... Batas d2 batas dun para saan ang batas na iyan? Para nga naman kumita ng pera ang Pilipinas... pg hindi ka ganun kahusay sa Ingles hindi ka mapapakinabangan ng bansa mo.. kaawa awang Pilipino
Bilib na ako sa mga Hapon.... tsk nde nila kailangan ng kung ano anong batas para lng pagaralan ang salitang Ingles... dahil ang mga karatig na bayan pa mismo ang gustong magaral ng salita nila para lng pasukin ang mausbong na ekonomiya ng JAPAN... Has the experiment conducted in Kalinga already concluded that the mother tongue is more effective than english as a medium of instruction? If so, malinaw na hindi klangan ang Gullas bill...
for me the main problem is the poor quality of education coz of lack of classrooms, teachers, resources, etc... magturo ba nman ang 1 teacher sa 50-60 students in a class... walang maupuan at walang libro... matututo ba? skul bukol ang labas... ito rin ang pinakamalking dahilan ng problema, nsa-SACRIFICE ang edukasyon dahil sa KAHIRAPAN... paguwi ng grade school student sa bahay from skul... busy si tatay at si nanay sa trabaho... walang time para turuan si anak... ano pa expect mo, pagganito... wala na ngang trabaho at makain...sabayan pa ng taas na matrikula... haay, buhay sa pilipinas... Sa aking mga kababata!
I strongly recommend to use English as medium of instruction. English is a Universal Language (British English if possible). I support the Gullas Bill. Sa paaraang natuto ka mag-english, then it is easy for you to learn also other languages like Spanish, French, Latin etc. Those who do not like the Gullas bill or to use English as Medium of Instruction, you already have your shot after Cory changed it. Saksi tayong lahat sa problemang hinaharap ng ating bansa na hindi tayo makakuha ng malaking contract dahil hindi competitive ang english proficiency skills ng karamihan sa ating population. Kung iisipin malaki ang chance ng nakararami na makakuha ng magandang contract kung sinuportahan lamang ang programang English instruction program. Ang katotohanan na iyong may pera at nakapag-aral sa DLSU, Ateneo at etc... ang umuunlad ang buhay dahil English ang medium ng instruction nila. Kayo, maganda pasahod sa Call Center at BPO. Anthony,
let me ask you a question, what was the medium of instruction in your school when you were in grade school? i think you made your children fluent in english because of your influence, your help, your status in life... you may not be rich buy you are definitely an above average income earner... so you can afford to send your children to a good school. I believe, even if you don't use english as your native language, your children can speak english well... i just see some disadvantages in english speaking 100% if you are living in a place where english is not the native language... i still prepare to make my children grow best on both worlds... anyway, congratz! its a good job! right now in our country, income is proportional to the quality of education that our children may have... except to those scholars... Good Luck! HPA,
The medium of instruction in my elementary school during that time was english and to think I grew up in a city outside Metro Manila. When I finished elementary, I knew more english words than my neighbors of my same age. Being well versed with the english language has brought me to where I am now. Having said that, it paved ways for me to reach whatever I want to grasp on to. If all our children will be good in the english language, regardless of the school where they came from or where they studied, it will definitely bring them to places. It disheartens me when I read the test papers of my children and I see a lot of errors in grammar. Much more so if the subject is English and you see those errors. Your point in telling me that it is because of my influence that my children speak english well is correct but that's because I don't want them to experience what I see in other children who can hardly answer back when asked in english, who can hardly express themselves using the english language. The point remains that the medium of instruction in school is not english. I had to start somewhere with my children. If only I can bring back time when schools were using english as the medium of instruction... Tama, ang dapat pagtuunan ay ang sistema ng edukasyon sa ating bansa. Hindi nga naman maasikaso ng isang guro ang lahat ng mag-aaral kung ang bilang nito ay umaabot sa 50. Papano niya mabibigyan ng pansin ang ilang mag-aaral na kailangan ng dagdag na paliwanag atensiyon okung hindi nito maintindihan agad ang mga aralin. Hindi lang ang english ang dahilan ng pagbaba ng klase ng edukasyon diyan sa atin kung hindi ang buong sistema ng edukasyon lalo na sa mga publikong eskwelahan. Nang sa ganoon eh makapantay naman ang mga estudyante o mag-aaral na nakapag-aral sa publikong eskwelahan sa mga estuyante na nag-aral sa pribadong eskwelahan.
Hindi totoong lumaya ang Filipinas ng ideklera ang pambansang kasarinlan sa Luneta. Dahil kung totoong lumaya tayo dapat ay mayroon na tayong maunlad na bansa at maunlad na wika. Umalis lamang ang mga pinunong Amerikano sa ating bansa ngunit nanatili parin ang impluwensyang Amerikano sa lahat ng aspekto ng ating buhay. Ang totoo nga niyan mukang mas lalo pa tayong nabibighani sa kulturang Amerikano at sa wikang Ingles biruin mo ba naman ito daw ang wikang ng globalisasyon at ang itanatayang wika ng kaalaman. Ang manipestasyon ng ating pagkahumaling sa wikang Ingles ay ang E.O 210 ipinapanukala nito gawing wika ng instruksyon ang wikang Ingles sa lahat ng antas sa mga paralaan, isang klarong indikasyon ng pagkaharuyo natin sa kultura at wikang Ingles. Sabi nga ni Virgilio Almario sa sobrang lakas ng impluensya ng wikang ito kahit dila ng kanto boy hindi pinalagpas. Haay Colonial Mentality kailan mo ba lulubayan ang bansa ko!? matagal ko nang hinihintay ang libing mo, punyeta masyado ng matgal ang lamay mo!
I would just like to say that the Filipino language is not an umbrella for all Philippine languages. Ilocano, Cebuano, Kapampangan, Pangasinan, etc. are all languages and not dialects. A flaw in our educational system is that it fails to recognize the empowerment that the people could achieve if they become fluent in their native tongue first before learning the Filipino and English language. Our educational system has instilled inferiority complex to millions of young people, especially from the non-Tagalog provinces who now see themselves as less intelligent than those from Metro Manila since our educational system portrays their language as something unworthy for education and learning, and even degrading their status to mere dialects!
Saying that we don't have a budget is one of those weak arguments. No one ever told that we have to translate all materials into all Philippine languages in just one time! For now, we could use English books but the explanation is in the mother language. And one more thing, do you fear the huge amount that will be spent on translating or do you fear the bigger amount that will be spent for dropouts? In Papua New Guinea where they have 800 languages, they are now providing materials for one fourth of that number since they fear the bigger amount that will be spent on dropouts! It's funny why you people fear the lesser amount that will be spent on translation!
Ano ang pagkaiba ng tagalog sa wikang pilipino?
Bakit my blogger na nagbigay ng kommento na hindi tagalog ang wikang pilipino,nalilito tuloy ako kung alin ba ang wikang pilipino ang taglish,camlish,ceblish,biclish,ilolish etc. Bakit tagalog o pilipino ang napiling gawin pambansang wika,dahil mas mainam at maganda ang pagkakabalangkas ng mga salitang tagalog o pilipino kumpara sa mga dialict na ginagamit ng iba´t-ibang rehiyon,mas tumpak at magaan ang mga salitang ginagamit kumpara sa mga salitang gamit ng iba´t-ibang probinsya na may mga katagang hindi kanais-nais pakinggan at masalimuot dahil sa may pagkabanyaga ang dating parang aleman salita na may halong intsik at may kabit na russo at may buntot na arabo. Para sa masang pilipino,kung naintindihan kayo ng kausap nyo sa salitang pilipino o tagalog yan ang gamitin nyo,kung hindi kayo magkaintindihan sa tagalog na salita ay inglis ang gamitin nyo,pero kung hindi pa rin kayo magkaintindihan magsign-languages na lang kayo,kung hindi pa rin kayo magkaintindihan wag na lang kayong mag-usap sayang lang ng laway at oras nyo. Kaya nagiging mang-mang ang henerasyon ngayon dahil karamihan sa kanila ay malnourished,walang mabuting tagapagturo,walang maayos na paaralan at walang panahon mag-aral dahil kailangan ng tumulong sa magulang para may makain lang. To those can afford to learn english and other languages its your chance to add more data to your brains. Our brain is like a computer,the more input it has the more it has many aspect. English should be learn by people desired to have more knowledge as we all knew,it is easy to learn other languages thru "english/other languages dictionary" as i never find a tagalog or pilipino/deutsch,pilipino/chinese,pilipino/japanese,pilipino/arabic,pilipino/french etc....it would be a good business opportunity for linguist expert to make a dictionary of pilipino into different languages if they want pilipino to be recognized or to be used worldwide. Other nations envy filipinos for having the talent to speak and learn other languages which most of them can not. So be happy that filipinos could adopt and learn easily other tongues,it is a blessing for filipino people,who knows a few decades from now pilipino would be the international language as for me it has the perfect command in sounds,feeling or emotion. I love to used pilipino or tagalog to those who can understand,because tagalog has its magnifying characters that describes us being filipinos. Ang lambing,at sarap pakinggan ng musikang pilipino dahil madali maintindihan at puno ng damdamin gaya ng english songs,it makes a dying soul alive,it bringout the best out of oneself(bigay todo): I love to speak what i am comfortable to speak with. Mahal ko rin ang pilipino o tagalog dahil lahat ng kantang gamit ang pambansang wika ay mayhatid na ligaya,lungkot at pag-asa sa mga taong nakakaintindi ng ating wika. Kung gusto ng gobyerno na gawin english ang medium for instruction pero wikang pilipino naman ang gamitin nila sa pakikipagtalastasan sa kapwa pilipino dahil ang english ay napapakinabangan natin ng husto sa pag-alam sa mga technology ng ibang-bansa na hindi tayo mahihirapan unawain dahil my english version ang mga manual. English is for filipinos advantages and pilipino or tagalog still our official languages that should be used in communicating with fellow filipino unless they can not speak nor understand tagalog,then it would be a lose for oneself. Like a filipino grew-up without learning how to used or speak tagalog,when they went to market to buy a thing that need to be bargain,most of the time the salesperson would not lower the price by detecting its clients a filipino but a stranger on its homeland. Sana lang ang mga politiko kung magtatalumpati sila gamitin nila ang wikang pambansa para ang karamihan sa pilipino maintindihan ang gustong iparating nila sa madla.Kaya si Erap mahal ng mga mahihirap dahil ka-level ni Erap ang mga mahihirap dahil gaya ni Erap karamihan sa pilipino hindi makaintindi ng inglis. Kaya para sa ikaliligaya ng lahat kung saan wika ka nila higit na mauunawaan mas mabuti keysa panay ang inglis nyo yon pala dalawa o tatlo lang nakakaintindi sa mga pinapaliwanag nyo. I vote for English as a medium for instruction,at pilipino o tagalog bilang Wikang Pambansa na dapat ay ginagamit sa pakikipag-usap sa kapwa pilipino. Madali lang matutunan ang wikang pilipino at ganon din ang inglis,mas mahirap matutunan ang mga lengguwaheng hindi gumagamit ng roman numerals,roman alphabet dahil kailangan munang isaulo ang ibig sabihin ng bawat maliit na tuldok at guhit dahil bawat maliit na pagkakaiba ay may ibang kahulugan. Philippines already achieved its goal to be called independent nation but as saying goes"No man is an island"kaya wag na magtaka kung lagi na lang naghahanap ng ibang lahi ang ating kapwa pilipino na mahihingian nila ng tulong,pagmamahal dahil likas na sa pilipino ang hindi makuntento kung ano mayroon ang ating bansa.Kaya naman an mga pilipino kung ano mayroon sa ibang bansa,gusto rin magkaroon ng ganon sa pinas. I think we filipinos need only to love,keep our country clean,be humble to one another,be industrious enough,save,think of the next generation and success is just within our hands. Kung lahat ng pilipino magsumikap na taniman ang mga nakalbong kabundukan ng mga prutas at kahoy na kapakipakinabang,linisin at wag ng hayaan maging kontaminadong muli ang kapaligiran then Philippines once again will becomes a paradise...ang magsasabi lang na sila ay nagugutom ay mga pilipinong tamad. Salamat,thank you,merci,danke,arigato to all lovely readers(mapagmahal na mambabasa)Mabuhay kayong lahat basta huwag lang kayong magpakamatay. OO nga matagal na dapat itong ibalik. kasi ito yung unang batas na ginawa ni cory aquino na gawing pilipino ang turo sa lahat ng skul. buti na lang tapos na ko ng college at this time pero look naman sa mga sumunod sa amin garabee ang effect ng tagalog as medium of teaching na higher quality level to low level. it's about time bebe!
Para sa akin po, magandang na ang english ay matutunan nang mga pilipinong umuusbong pa lamang. Sapagkat itoy napakaimportante lalong lalo na pag dating sa panahon na sila ay lalabs nang ating mahal na bansa at makipagsaplaran sa ibang bansa na ang tanging paraan ang ang pagkakaintindihan ng wikang english. Sa uri ng kalidad nang pamumhay ngayon sa Pilipinas at sa mga taong nakapaloob sa pangkasalukuyang administrasyon, walng patutunguhan ang ating bansa..Lalo lamang iton malulugmok sa kahirapan, walang kapangyarihan nino man ang mapaganda ang kalidan ng kabuhayan sa Pilipinas kahit sa nalalapit na eleksyon wala nino man sa mga tinatawag na kandidato ang may kakayahan upang itaguyod ang pagbabago sa kasalukuyang kaliadad ng buhay ng pilipinas. Ang tagning paraan na lamang ay ang pagkakaruon ng sariling sikap at ang maging matuto ng wikang englisg ay isa sa mga paraan ang pansariling pagunlad. Wala ka nang maasahan pa at yan ang nagdudumilat na katutuhanan sa bansang pilipinas. Sogad na sa buto ang pangkalahatang kahirapan ng pilipinas sapagkat wala man ninoman ang nagiisip para sa ikakaunlad ng mga umuusbong na pilipino masakait man pero yan ang kautuhanan . Maraming pera ang pilipinas pero di nagagamit sa tamang pamamaraan.Kait ang puong maykapal di na nya kayang patawarin ang mga opisyales na kasalukuyang nakaupo dahil sa mga kagagawa na wala sa tamang direksyon at di nauuyon sa kanyang kagustuhan
Aminin man natin o hindi napakarami ng mga batas na naipasa pero nasaan naman ang pagpapatupad ng mga ito? Kapag naipasa, mabibigayan ng budget. Kapag nai-release ang nasabing budget saan napupunta ang nasabing budget doon ba sa dapat pag-gastusan ng naipasang batas? Hindi! Doon po sa mga tao na dapat magpatupad ng nasabing naipasang batas. So what is the use of passing another new law when all other old laws are useless?
I love speaking my own language, Pilipino or Tagalog, however you call it. It is the language that comes from my heart not from my head. I don't have to think of my grammar and diction, I just say whatever my heart wants to express. Salamat po! To those who want to improve their English speaking skill try to join Toastmaster Club. The latter organization objective is to develop both your communication and leadership skill through actual practice. you can visit their website at www.toasmaster.com.
YEEES ENGLISH HELP US FIND WORK ABROAD AS A LOW PAID OFW. LOW PAID AT API NA KATULONG.
ANg galing mo..
Atleast may JOB ka, man!! Hindi lahat ng OFW inaapi..underpaid maybe pero hindi lahat pinapaso ng plantsa.. tigil tigilan mo panunuod ng drama, pwede?? SIGE wag kang matuto ng english, jan ka lang sa pinas.. tignan natin kung may mararating ka na tagalog lang alam mo. DARE?! ano? Yan ang mahirap saaatin we live in this fantasy world of soap dramas hoping that one day we will all be saved..all the while blaming everybody for this sad state na our country is in. come on! git off yer ass and start changing, lazzy piece of shit/s!! .. ay hindi nga pala SAPAT ang workforce sa pinas para maka-accomodate ng sandamamak na taong nag iintay magka trabaho. HERE WE GO AGAIN BLAMING OTHER PEOPLE FOR OUR OWN UNDOING. THIS TIME WE BLAME OTHER PEOPLE'S LANGUAGE.
HO HO HO HO WHEN WILL WE EVER LEARN TO BE HUMBLE AND ADMIT OUR SHORTCOMINGS AS A NATION, AND AS PEOPLE. THE QUALITY OF EDUCATION DOES NOT DEPEND ON THE LANGUAGE USED. IT DEPENDS LARGELY ON THE QUALITY OF EDUCATORS. AND THE QUALITY OF EDUCATORS DEPEND ON THE QUALITY OF EDUCATION THEY GOT COMBINED WITH THE MATERIALS THEY USE, AND ALSO THE COMPENSATION THEY RECEIVE. AS SIMPLE AS THAT. BUT WE ARE TOO PROUD TO ADMIT THAT WE HAVE POOR EDUCATORS, POOR MATERIALS, LOW COMPENSATION; ETC, ETC. ETC. PLEASE ADD TOO THE POOR QUALITY OF LIVES OUR POOR STUDENTS HAVE. WHAT CAN WE EXPECT. BLAME ENGLISH? HO HO HO HO SORRY TO TELL THIS BUT WE FILIPINOS ARE A BIG JOKE. What´s wrong being filipino.what is wrong being poor,so what if Philippines is not getting any better or much worse going backward...after all the success the rich countries achieved are they really happy on it?The answer my friend a big NO.
Rich countries maybe abundant of material things that poor country doesn´t have but what makes a country happy enough is when they are free of guilt,no hatred within their hearts and they are not hated anywhere they go. Filipinos doesn´t invaded nor abuse any countries as far as i know,onething filipinos has to be proud of,filipinos never oppressed nor makes any country suffered,not like rich countries which are undeniably put many countries into chaos. I don´t think being OFW or DH or yaya abroad a shame to our country,filipinos were blessed to be that way,we should be thankful that being a humble servant we have a chance to see other country,cultures and characters. OFWs has a choose to go home after their contract is over but many prolong their contract for more financial comfort. If filipinos want to live a life with a quality they could but most of them didn´t think according to the capacity their salary can afford,some even they don´t have jobs they will engages themselves in making more babies that results into many hungry mouth,malnourish children becomes criminals,a burden for good citizens and a disgrace for the country itself. By the way many proffesional are more corrupts than those ignorant poor uneducated people. What's wrong you ask? really? what's wrong.. gee i wonder.. look at the collective priorities of your society, . Illiteracy is becomming a major problem, too many people arent going to school, those who are, well after four years of hard work in college, and what, they get to work as an OFW or DH .. yey.. Universities and Proffesions that make big bucks, (which your students deserve)require English comprehension at the very least.
And wtf is that question are those big countries really happy??! their politicians may not be happy but the people are.. atleast they get what they worked for.. well atleast not in america. people arent living in dumps, slums.. they dont have to fuckin go all the way to the next country to find work.. so take a good hard look around you.. you guys are one big JOKE! do you feel blessed now?!? I agree with john, a lot of people are just too fucking proud to admit the gazillion flaws in your system, you find other things to blame.. Philippines is a rich country,invaded by spanish,americans,japanese,chinese,malaysians,europeans so please don´t expect that this country would be as progressives as other rich countries.There is plenty of raw materials took out by those countries that you said none of their people live in slums...kasi hindi sila mahilig gumawa ng bata at bago sila gumawa ng bata ay nagpaplano muna sila.
I do observes why many countries becomes rich not that they are non-tagalog speaking countries because they´ve been stealing other countries coffer by means of monkey business,underground operations,smuggling contaminated radio active toxic materials and exporting illegal drugs and giving the crooks safety haven on their home country as long as they pay for their stay,accepted bloodmoney,etc...while RP has to provide educations for all the children resides in RP either they are children of illegal alliens they have right to learn basic education. Filipinos are blessed that´s true,to have a chance to see and work to other country is a blessing,it gave them chance to see the difference from their origin to their adopted country. RP may not as progressives as rich countries does but for me RP still a paradise on itself that resided by many parasites...totoo sangkaterba na ang mga parasitong naninirahan sa pinas kaya naman kahit sa estero,sa ilalim ng tulay kahit sa kulungan ng baboy basta pwede tirhan ganyan ang buhay ng mga taong mahirap pilit gusto mabuhay kahit na bulid sa kahirapan at kung minalas pa pagnagkasakit o sinalanta ng kalamidad ay mistulang mga patay na daga lang sa mata ng taong mayayaman. Mababago lang ang pangit na mukha ng pinas(poverty=hungry people living in slum) kung Diyos na ang gumawa ng paraan para maging paraisong muli ang bansang pinas...or if you becomes the president,you can make a CHANGE. CHANGE,yes we can believe in SERENE...weeeeeeeeeeeehhh!
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Sorry, i simply cant BECOMES a president, cus, fortunately, i was not not born there.
and why would i waste my life trying to right a nation ..apparently hopeless. thanks,but no thanks. A lot of people cannot even deal with whatever's happening to them, you put everything in your stupid faith that only god can help you now, guess what.. how many generations have your people been praying and still, the country cannot even produce a leader capable of spending one day in office and not steal anything. you blame other countries for "stealing" or corrupting your identity.. whatever! and change.. hmpph. sorry honey, count me out. I aint wasting my time hoping for it. Ang marapat na gawin ng ating gobyerno ay ang tamang paglaan ng wastong kurikula sa ating edukasyon. Hindi pa rin tayo humihiwalay sa lumang tradisyon ng pagtuturo ng wika. Ang paggamit ng wikang Ingles ay mahalaga sa ating pagsulong, kung ang tamang pagtuturo sa paaralan ay isususulong. Ngunit huwag nating isawalang bahala ang ating sariling wika sapagkat ito ang pundasyon ng ating kaalaman para sa ikalawang pag-aaral ng ibang wika.
Our country can not provide the much needed jobs to millions of young people in the next generation or two. This means that millions will have to go out of our country to meet our needs. There is no other way unless miracle from above happens. By learning how to be proficient in english, it can help us a lot since english is undoubtedly the world's popular language. Take note that our neighbor like china, thailand, south korea and the rest are spending much money just to learn english. Speaking in correct english is our only advantage over the other nationalities. As an OFW, i am sure of what i am saying since i have a first hand experience on it. Lastly, speaking or learning english does not make anybody less filipino.
English as a medium for instruction in school only pero pambansang wikang pilipino o tagalog ang gamitin ng masang pilipino kung ang kausap mo ay kapwa pilipino at ang mga politiko natin wag ng mag-inglis sa kanilang pagtatalumpati dahil hindi naman mga dayuhan ang kanilang pinapaliwanagan ng kanilang mga programang gusto isulong para sa ikauunlad ng bansa.
Kailangan ng bawat pilipino ang matuto ng kahit english lang dahil maraming teknolohiya ang salin sa iba´t-ibang wika pero sa tagalog ay wala.Ang pagkakaroon ng english proficiency nakakatulong sa bawat pilipino para madali maunawaan ang mga bagay na hindi salin sa wikang tagalog. Dahil kung isasalin sa wikang tagalog ang bawat detalye na nakasulat sa english ay mahabang panahon pa ang lalakbayin ng pilipino bago maging ganap na henyo sa larangan ng teknolohiya,ekonomiya at kaunlaran. Maunlad naman ang Pilipinas,kaya nga dinudumog ng mga koreano,intsik,bombay at iba´t-ibang lahi dahil sa Pilipinas ay buhay hari sila dahil ang pilipino mapagmahal,maunawain,palakaibigan yon nga lang maraming nagiging kriminal dahil sa drogang dala ng mga mapagsamantalang dayuhan. Drugs drive many of the filipinos as well as foriegners that resides in the country to becomes useless and a big problem for society. Kung mahigpit ang batas ng Pilipinas hindi basta-basta makakapasok ang mga illegal drugs sa bansa.Kaya lang mismo PDEA pa yata ang protector ng mga drug syndicates sa bansa. I think filipinos should realized if they suffered there is more people from othersides of the world that suffered much more worse than them,like the people of africa,russia,columbia,india,china,zimbabwe,they are not only homeless,hungry,clothesless they has to endures the cold winter their country has. In Philippines those who belong to below poverty are those who has big family,no stable jobs and DSWD can no longer afford to supply their needs,because while DSWD helping them,they keep on making more babies. What the school needs to teach is the proper time to start a family and to tell their pupils,student to produce only a family they can afford to feed,sent to school and provide them a life with a quality,not living like rats,cochroach,leech,mosquitoes or pigs. Educations is the key to success"that´s true"those who are educated they plan before having family,those uneducated they makes babies before they plan. If filipinos,chinese,bombays,latinos want to git rid of poverty,STOP making babies you no longer can afford to provide a better life. Ang problema ng mga mang-mang magaling lang sa paggawa ng bata kaya kung sino pa ang mahihirap sila pa ang sangkatutak ang anak. saludo ako sa lahat ng sinabi mo.lalo na yung mga taong.basta na lang nag-aanak ng walang ka plano plano pra sa anak.. dapat ang palawakin nila ay ang pag-kontrol sa malaking pamilya..turuan dapat ang mga mag-asawa na limitahan ang magiging anak..kawawa ang bata .sila ang dumaranas ng sobrang hirap...halos di na makag-aral..sa halip sila ang kumakayod para lang sila mabuhay..pasalamat ako sa DIYOS kasi pinagkalooban nya ako ng talento sa pagkanta..kung hinde tiyak na hirap din ako sa paghanap ng ikabubuhay..lalo at high school lang natapos ko..yung pag-gamit ng english..napakahalaga mas maganda kung bata pa eh mahasa na sa wikang english..kasi d2 sa thailand bihira lang ang marunong sa english..buti pilipino ako kc nakakintinde ng english,at dyan tayo hinahangaan ng mga taga ibang bansa,,mataas ang tingin nila sa atin kasi daw lahat ng pilipino magagaling mag-english..MABUHAY TAYONG MGA PINOY...
Language has two major purposes: One is to "Give Information" and the other is to "Acquire Knowledge."
These two create a virtual bridge that crosses among or between barrier, due to hundreds or thousands of languages in the world, to create harmony and understanding. English fits in this category because many organizations (like UNs), businesses/companies, and countries that advance popular and mass education uses it. This language will serve as our key to open the door of awareness or consciousness and will ease the suspicious or uneasy mind of every human being. Opinyon ko lang po mga sir at mam.
Kahit po anong lenguwahe ang ating gamitin sa mga paaralan ay mababalewala kung ang mismong sistema, guro at mga kagamitan ay may pagkukulang. Isa pang dapat baguhin ay ang ugaling pagalingan. Kitang kita naman dito sa ilang mga naka-post na comments na talagang maraming magaling na kababayan. Ngunit hindi po ba mas magiging mahusay tayo kung sa halip na pagalingan ay TULUNGAN ang mangyari? Magtulungan na lang po at mas maganda ang ating pagbabalitaktakan lalo na kung walang pagalingan, iringan at sisihan. Mabuhay po tayong lahat! Tangkilikin ang sariling atin. Push Onward Philippines! G. Brando Braganza,
Ang tagal kong hinanap na meron sana maka-pagisip nitong comment mo (#56) at natagpuan ko rin sa wakas. Tama ka G. Braganza. Ang kailangan ng mga pilipino ay mataas na kalidad na edukasyon, systema na maipagmamalaki sa ibang bansa (pribado man o pampublikong paaralan). Ang dapat pagtuunan ng pansin ng Gobyerno (DepEd) ay makabagong pasilidad ng paaralan at may malasakit na matatalinong at mapamaraang GURO. At para mapatupad eto kailangan ay magkaroon ng matapat, magaling at mapagmahal sa kapwa na mga opisyal ng gobyerno simula sa pangulo ng pilipinas pababa. Ang tinutukoy nyo sir ay mga pang-uugali na ng mga tao. Dito ang pinag-uusapan ay kung bakit mahalaga ang English kumpara sa ibang wika.
Alam naman natin na halos lahat ng mga makabagong teknolohiya ay ginawa o naimbento ng mga bansang gumagamit ng english na salita. Dahil dito para malaman natin ang mga konsepto and kaalamang ito dapat matotoo tayo ng maayos sa salitang gamit nila. Kung gusto mong malaman kung bakit masasama ang mga ugali ng ibang Filipino, paki tanong nalang sa mga pari, mayayamang pamilya sa Pilipinas, mga promoprotekta sa kumonista sa bansang ito, at sayong sarili kung bakit. Sigurado ka ba sa sinabi mo na halos lahat ng umimbento ng mga technolohiya ay galing sa bansa na ang mga tao ay bihasa o marunong magsalita ng ingles?
Kabilang ba dito ang Germany, France, Switzerland, Belgium, Japan, S. Korea, Italy & Finland. Napaunlad ba nila ang bansa nila dahil sa salitang ingles? English same with other languages all over the world is a meduim for communication, if you mean because of english is the reason why those country I mentioned above are developed & rich, you are absolutely wrong. Kung ang pilipinas ay merong gobyerno na gumagawa ng ayon sa batas at tulad ng mga sinabi ni maharlika at ni Braganza baka matagal ng maunlad ang pilipinas at wala na rin ang filipino diaspora. hindi na kailangan umalis sa ating bansa para maging OFW. Nung nag-aaral pa ako sa elementarya, ang medium of instructions sa karamihan ng subjects ay English. Pero pagdating sa wikang Pilipino ito ay itinuturo ng husto ng mga teachers...(pati raw pala ang salitang bikol ay pinag aaralan din at may bikol grammar subject pa sabi ng nanay ko). Pero kahit English ang medium of instruction noon ay nanatiling patriotic ang mga tao. Sapagkat sa school ay itinuturo ang patriotism. Bihasa sa English, bihasa sa mother tongue (bikol, bisaya, Ilocano etc). So dapat, kung math, science and English subjects, English ang medium of instruction. Yung Pilipino, social studies at iba pa ay maari na siguro ituro sa Pilipino. Kasi para we can have mastery of both English and mother tongue.
Back in my elementary days, there was a stark difference between the English alphabet and the Filipino alphabet. We pronounce Filipino alphabet the way we pronounce it when we speak the national language...a ba ka da...as opposed to abcd. That way we can differentiate both languages. Now, with the englisizing of our Filipino alphabet, the kids can no longer tell the difference. English Grammar is full of other subjects instead of...plain grammar...hinaluan ng environmental etc etc...Isn't it any wonder that this generation does not have a mastery of both languages? What is our aim? to be labor exports? Lots of countries do not speak English well but they are wealthy (for example, Japan)...English is an international language, we must learn to speak it properly. Tagalog is our national language (because it was declared by Quezon who defeated Osmena, kung hindi, di bisaya sana ang national language) so we can understand each other better...we must have a greater mastery of it. Teach English and Filipino properly in school...
Mareng Winnie, Kung ang wikang English ang mag-aahon sa karalitaan at mataas na antas ng ating pamumuhay (tulad ng experience ng mga developed countries like, Nipongo, Korean, Mandarin, Bahasa, Scandinvian, Russian at iba pang mauunlad na sibilisasyon, identity at kultura), kung ang English ang magpapawi ng katiwalian at pangungurakot, kung ang English ang magpapalago ng industriya’t teknolohiya at empleyo, kung ang English ang papawi sa pagiging busabos ng Pinoy sa mata ng mundo, kung ang ENGLISH ang bubura sa paninging mga UTUSAN, chimay at PROSTI (domestic helper at caregivers) ang Pinoy sa mata ng mundo, kung ang English ang magdadala ng maraming gintong medalya sa tuwing may palaro sa Olympic at kung ang English ang siyang daan sa pagkakaisa, baka siguro NUMERO UNO NA TAYO SA LAHAT NG BAGAY SA MUNDO!
If we can stand on our own two feet and not leave the country as OFWs, then the point in retaining Filipino or the vernacular as medium of instruction should then be maintained. But let's think about it. Can the government keep each and every Filipino productive within the country? I believe the answer is no because unemployment is the end result of it and the fact that the government is pushing overseas employment, it basically means that our asset retains in overseas manpower. What good will it do if not even a sentence can be spoken correctly and you are working in another country. It doesn't matter what your work abroad is as long as other countries see you as an asset because you are employable, because you can speak english well. Right now, here in our country, if we will not take care of the english language, BPOs will not continue their operations here and a lot of Filipinos will lose their jobs. Think about it...
Being able to communicate in English well is an advantage to Filipinos..We are branded as a GLOBAL WORKERS..anywhere..there are Filipinos..and this is partly because we can communicate well in English.
Here in Thailand, most filipinos work here as Teachers. We are teaching English as Second Language, and Thai people have very high regards with Filipino teachers, and based from my experienced here teaching with Thai students,,i can't help it but thanks God at least the Filipinos speaks better English than them.We are still lucky that we used bilingual language. So, this Gullas bill is a good start to revive and to enhance the English communication skills of Filipino students.It will not only make us a Globally compititive workers but for us to communicate well to other nationalities wherever we go. Hello teresa,
It's nice to know you're a teacher in Thailand.However,it is sad to know that many Thai employers do not really hire Filipinos because of the skin color and the accent.For one,take a look at your comments here.As a teacher (huh!)you should be proficient and efficient in grammar.(We are branded as (a) global workers?and many Thai people have high regard(s)...i can't help it but (thanks) God???Don't brag yourself as a teacher because many Thais are racist. Next time when you comment,proof read it before posting kasi baka mapahiya ka sa grammar mo teacher ka pa naman sabi mo... No offense meant. YOU ARE INDEED A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF FILIPINO WITH "CRAB MENTALITY"..yah..that teresa's GRAMMAR is not that perfect as YOURS maybe...at least na i-share nya ang kanyang karanasan bilang teacher sa thailand..at swerte sya don..
sa PINTAS ka lang magaling.., hindi RACIST ang THAI..kung mapasama ka sa kanila ng matagal at ma prove mo ang WORTH mo as teacher,,igagalang ka nila..if u will make a research..halos lahat ng school sa thailand my filipino..kaya lng nila ayaw mg hire ng PINOY..d dahil sa kulay o accent ng pinoy..kundi dahil sa ugali ng PINOY..(alam mo na yun..isa ka doon eh..) ang issue dito ay ang "GULLAS BILL" di ang mamintas sa kapwa mo!!!! very good wakwak!
thaigirl, perfect ka nga sa english subject bagsak ka nman sa values education... wala din... Tama tama tama... Puro batas hanggang batas lng .... Tignan nyo muna ung mga paaralan na walang libro, upuan sira ang bubong tapos..... Sana unahin un ... Kaawa awang Juan gus2 mgaral wala naman gamit.....
tsk tsk tsk Bakit hindi ka magdonate.
Bakit hindi ka gumitna sa labanan ng mga sundalo at mga rebelding kumonista at MILF o Abusayaf, at sabihin mo sa kanila ng yung pagbili nyo ng bala at mga baril ibili nyo nalang ng mga libro at pagkain. Bakit hindi ka kumatok sa pintuan ng mayayamang pamilya at sabihin mo sa kanilang magbigay ng kunti sa mga public schools. Huwag mong gayahin si Jose Rizal na ayaw sa mga Español pero ayaw namang sumali sa kilusan nina Andres Bonifacio. Dahil sa tingin nya na daldal lang sapat na para mapalayas ang mga dayuhan. smile,
donation is very helpful but it doesn't solve the problem... sinasabi mo ba na walang pera ang gobyerno para magpagawa at magpaayos ng skwelahan? bilyon-bilyon ang pondo ng DECS para dyan, kung nagagamit ng maayos... mataas na sana kalidad ng edukasyon sa pilipinas... i agree with JRJ, puro batas... kulang sa gawa... The so called Gullas Bill will not liberate the Filipinos out of poverty. It will not make the students in grade school and high school becomes competitive once they enter the workers market. China's engineers and scientist are not that brassy in English but they were able to send man in space, now has landed a spacecraft in the moon. They only started enterpreneurship in the early 80's now they have global brand name like Lenovo, Haier, next is car and heavy industry product.
Why not make our student focus on science, math and enterpreneural spirit as a bill in congress. Our senators and congressman has a very narrow mind in looking at the very bottom of our childrens learning problem. Our policy maker are more focus in getting their bank account fatter. Gullas Bill may be cool to pass but it is not gonna work in helping our Teachers and student learn and bring them out of poverty. Pinoy are more concerned being part of popular culture, like a pinoy in Journey, Charice pempemco and pacquiao. Their success stop in their door step. It will not help all Filipinos. Do we hear Filipino created a global brand that build industrial based at home, NOPE. English is awesome to learn but damned if it will alleviate us out of poverty. Good luck with your Carabao English. KA BLOGGERS,
OO TAMA SI MADAM WINNIE MARAMING NGA SA MGA PILIPINO ANG MAHINA SA ENGLISH PERO HINDI DAPAT PAGTAWANAN O IDISCRIMINATE ANG GANYANG KALSE NG PROBLEMA SA ISAMG MAMAYAN NG BANSA ALALAHANIN TAYONG MGA PILIPINO AY MAY SARILING WIKA AT IYON AY MANANATILING UGAT NG ATING NAGISNAN, TAMA MAG-ARAL AT MATUTO NG TAMANG BIGKAS SA ENGLISH HINDI NATING MAY IAALIS SA TAO NA KUNG TALAGANG MAHINA SA INGLISH WALA TAYONG MAGAGAWA BAKIT SA INGLISH LANG MABUBUHAY ANG TAO ISIPIN LANG DAMING MARUNONG MAG ENGLISH PERO MAHINA UMITINDI SA KAPWA TAO MERON NAMAN NAKAKAPAG ENGLISH PERO YUNG BAHO NG KANYANG PAGKATAO HINDI NAPAPALITAN, ANG TANONG KO YUNG MGA IBANG NATION PAG DUMADAYO SA ATING BANSA NAKAKAPAG ENGLISH BA SILA HINDI DI BA LALO NA YUNG MGA HAPON AT INSIK SARAP BATUKAN IKA NGA. KAYA HUWAG PO TAYONG MAGPUPUMILIT KUNG TALAGANG MAHINA SA ENGLIS YUNG TAO ANONG MAGAGAWA NATIN TALAGANG GANON KAHIT MAG ARAL PA KUNG TALAGANG MAHINA HANGGANG DOON NA LANG ANG MAHALAGA AY MARUNONG MAKIPAG KAPWA SANGAYON 78% NA SA MGA NAG AARAL AY TALAGANG DECIDED NA MATUTO NG ENGLISH TALAGANG GANON MAY KANYA KANYANG TALENTO NG TAO. Wala pang umunlad na bansa ang hindi nagmahal ng kanyang wika. Lagi kung ini-isip - bakit ang mga hapon isama muna dito ang Korea maunlad kahit halos di sila makapagsalita ng inglis.
Ang inglis ay isang "medium of communication" at hindi "measure of intelligence. Hindi ko maintindihan kung bakit natin dapat imaster ang inglis? Ano para ihanda natin ang mga tao para umalis ng Pilipinas at maging call center agents lang!!! Sa totoo lang, ang inglis ang isa pang dahilan kung bagit ang gap ng mahirap at mayaman ay lumalawak. Ang inglis ngayon ay nagiging symbolo ng angat sa buhay bukod sa yabang. Lagi kong ini-isip kong lahat tayo ay fluent sa inglis. Mas-maunlad kaya tayo? Wala pa akong bansa na umunlad dahil sa call center. Dead end job yan - di dapat natin i-aksaya ang talento ng ating kabataan sa pamamagitan ng pag-sagot ng "hello" sa phone. Kailangan natin ang talino upang maging "competitive tayo". Kailangan natin ang inglis kung nasa estado na tayo na kaya natin na mag-compete ng ating pisikal na produkto abroad - hindi paglinangin ang ingles para ang tao ang gawin nating produkto pang-abroad. Sana ma-realize ninyo yan. Ang inglis ay hindi mas superior sa tagalog - di ba mas masakit kung minura ka sa tagalog kaysa sa inglis o mas masarap kung pinuri ka sa sariling wika kaysa inglis - lahat ito ibig sabihin mas superior ang ating wika. Paano natin ma-dedevelop and wika natin kung di natin gagamitin. pagyamanin ang sariling atin, gamitin ang sariling atin.
at bilang isang bansang may pangarap at nagnanais na umunlad, hindi rin naman natin dapat ipagsawalang bahala lang ang kalagayan ng kalidad ng edukasyon ng mga kabataan. para sa akin, ang edukasyon ng kabataan ay dapat naka-focus unang una sa character building, responsibility at siempre sa language. karakter at pagiging responsable, dito tayo bagsak. kaya dapat dito mag focus. yun lang! proud to be Pinoy pa rin ako. Dear People of the Republic of the Philippines!
Matagal na akong nakatago, nakasiksik sa mga ilong ninyo! Ngunit ang lagi kong nasisilayan ay walang kamatayang pagtatalo sa lahat ng isyu. Mapa-inglis man o wikang Pilipino ang gagamitin ay tama. Walang mali ang mali lang ay ang sobrang dunong at pag papanggap na may puntong banyaga ang pagbigkas ng inglis eh mga bisaya nga at kapampangan eh may punto rin... at ang sarap pakinggan...ang lambing Basta andito lang ako sa ilalim ng ilong nakiki-usi sa inyong katalinuhan at obsesyon. To all bloggers ;
As an OFW,I'm able to speak to all nationalities thru English.I'm able to work well,paid well and adapt well because of that second language.I observed other nationalities like indians,paskitani,arabs and chinese are not given that same amount of opportunities as we are,simply because most of them are not proficient in English.In india,college students learn english when they reach college only.In pakistani,only exclusive schools and universities use english as medium of instruction.In short,more Filipinos land better paying jobs,better position and more employment opportunities compare to other nationalities because we can communicate and understand the commonly use language in business and science which is english.Able to speak and write English is one of the important factor that we Filipinos possess to be able to be in the Global mainstream.It is a means not the end. Lets take a perfect example,Jose M.Rizal.He was a liguist.Wherever he goes,he learned the language of the place.Since ,he can speak and write their language well.He was able to reachout to them.He was able to understand them well and he was able to meet important and influencial persons in that place.He was able to express well the plight of the Filipinos at that time and he was able to get the support and sympathy of other nations for our country.In short,why we limit ourselves.Jose Rizal was showing us that we must be a multi-lingual people not only a bi-lingual. For my opinion,aside from learning English very well,we must learn other languages,How about Bahasa Indonesia(they are our neighbors and share a lot in common in language and in culture),Malay(one of our early language),Chinese(Amoy or Mandarin will do-you can reachout to 1.5 billion people),Spanish(there nearly 1 billion speaking people),Arabic( we can make them our good friends-they are rich),SO WE MUST NOT LIMIT OURSELVES WITH TAGALOG,NATIVE LANGUAGE(CEBUANO,WARAY,ILOCANO) AND ENGLISH,IT IS THE KEY TO DO BUSINESS,SEEK EMPLOYMENT,GET INVESTMENT,MAKING FRIENDS AND GETTING NEW IDEAS AND FINDING NEW OPPORTUNITIES FOR OUR PEOPLE ,FOR OUR CHILDREN ,FOR THE FUTURE OF OUR COUNTRY. AS FOR ME,LET US STRENGTHEN WHAT WE HAVE NOW.LET US STUDY AND LEARN ENGLISH VERY WELL.REINFORCE AND RETRAIN OUR TEACHERS FROM ELEMENTARY TO COLLEGE SO THEY CAN TEACH OUR CHILDREN VERY WELL.THEN,LET US ENCOURAGE OUR PEOPLE TO LEARN OTHER LANGUAGE BECAUSE IT WILL BENEFITS US WELL,NOT ONLY FINANCIALLY BUT CULTURALLY AND POLITICALLY AS WELL. To all bloggers;
I have another point to raise and emphasize aside being a bi-lingial and multi-ligual. To learn ,study ,to get latest information on science,engineering and medicine we must learn english.Why?majority if not all of scientific studies, researches,developments and engineering reviews,medical studies are all written and presented in the language of ENGLISH.If you want to get those data or information and to be able to understand and apply that data well ,you must able to read,understand or comprehend ENGLISH.When you able to apply well the data you have,whether in business,engineering,medicine,education and on other field,you will be benefited.You can get rich,improved your social stature,send your to children for better school,provide your family a decent home,you can buy things you need,you don't have to beg for loans,you don't have to degrade yourself by asking loans ,you can give to others in need,you can help other people,in short your social and economic standing will improve. Therefore,to learn to speak and write English well is a benefit. Then,who do not want to be benefitted,they can stick to their native language and don't learn anything and stay where they are for the rest of their lives. Dear Filipino people like me:
Greetings ! Don't you know that speaking English well will jeopardize the growth of our country? All those who went abroad are those who know more or less the English language. If only we don't know English, all of us will stay here and apply our rich knowledge and this country will be great. Try to observe countries who don't speak English. They are rich and developed because they used their skills domestically. We want to know English in order to serve other countries. Bullshit!We are very hypocrites. Japanese seldom talk English but they are rich. Others are doing this like Germany, France, Italy. They are rich not using English. We are just fooled by the Americans and the British. During international beauty pageant, we don't send candidates who don't know English. Why not bring interpreters ! Latin countries are doing this and yet they are always winners. Frankly speaking, knowing English is the reason why our country is poor. The best technical men are out because they know English. Those who know English well are the lawyers and cannot work abroad that's why we have so many best lawyers in the country to back up the corrupt people because they are good in legal defense. Since we are adoring the foreign language, we love to buy foreign products because buying Filipino products connotes bad impression. Shall we grow? Be patriotic. I disagree with you that RP is poor because all the good genius filipinos are out serving other countries which for you a hypocrisy...then why are you speaking english then?
What makes our country poor because,it is over populated,other than that is the corruptions our gov´t officials doing.Instead for spending the resources in building projects that will benefits the filipino people,they take out the money and invest it to other countries. Why Germany,Italy,Switzerland,Japan are rich countries not because they don´t used english as their official or second languages,it is because their people plan first before having a family which the opposite of poor countries like RP,India,China,Mexico etc. You maybe right,if filipinos gov´t officials knew only mother tongue like Erap then no way they will open account in other countries to corrupt what is supposed to be spent for RP´s project. Hey guys, life is simple, you dont complicate it. If you wanna stay in the country for good, then speak your language tagalog,dont bother to learn to speak the english language, NOBODY can ever force you. But if you do want to go work abroad,find much better opportunities & be competent, then you know what to do.
I have to agree though, non-tagalog speakers speak fluent english than you know who. sad but true. Look on the clear picture people!... You can never wet a cloth unless you soak/immerse it in water!... Meaning, language proficiency and or fluency can never happen if we relied only on our school system because we all get home at the end of the day and speak our "HOME LANGUAGE"... So if the powers that be really have serious intentions on making all Pinoys learn English then they have to do it by EXAMPLE! If we want people to learn English then why not make a law requiring ALL GOVERNMENT PERSONNEL conduct their transactions in ENGLISH or whatever language it is they'd want us to learn?!...
Sa totoo lang, I haven't seen a tagalog speaking person not learn Cebuano once they stayed in Cebu for more than one month and vice versa for Cebuanos who actually hate to speak tagalog yet are able to when they come to Manila to study, work or whatever... Simply put, IMMERSION is the key to acheiving "Fluency in any language"... Hell, you could even learn Greek if you went and stayed in Greece... I therefore DARE THE PRESENT LEADERS to make a law requiring everyone from government personnel to Department Store salegirls, to Traffic Cops even Barangay Tanods to use the English language in all transactions and dealings and witness the country's transformation... what the hell you tried to implement for all filipinos to speak english,you must be crazy!
Hey man,every individual has the right to decides what languages they want to used in their homes,but YES the gov´t has to declared what official languages the country must use in school,business or in public. English is a fine sweet languages but i´d had big admiration of tagalog or pilipino bilang wikang pambansa dahil iyan ang sagisag ng ating lahing pilipino(pilipinong wika na pinaglaanan ng ilang dekada ng ating magiting na BAYANI upang tayong pilipino ay mayroon sariling wika na mapagkakalinlan at magpapatunay na tayo ay isang bansang may sariling diwa)hindi hiram o banyagang salita. Kaya hindi rin dapat balewalain ang pambansang wika dahil iyan ang ating pwedeng ipagmalaki sa mga dayuhan. Narito ang isang peronal kung karanasan: Isang US navy na pilipino ang nakilala ko sa isang barko dahil boss sya ng BF kong US navy rin na puti.Alam ng US navy na pilipino na pilipina ako kaya kinausap nya ako sa wika natin,alam mo ba dahil sa pakikipag-usap ng tagalog sa akin ng US navy na pilipino ay gusto pang patayin ng kanong yon ang US navy na pilipino dahil nakipag-usap daw sa akin sa wika natin na hindi nya maintindihan.Ang katwiran ng kano property na daw sya ng USA dahil US navy sya kaya di na nya dapat gamitin ang wika natin on that matter we said to him(kano)we filipinos studied english so we could understand your languages so why it would make him mad if we choose to speak our RP official language especially we are in our country Philippines...after that incident (kano)went to bookstore and bought english/tagalog dictionary and started to learn our languages. It was good that finally he(kano)can speak and understand tagalog,after that fierceful challenge i and the filipino US navy did to him,it does woke him-up. Totoo na karamihan sa mga hindi marunong magsalita ng tagalog ay pikon,ganon rin sa mga taong hindi makapagsalita ng english galit rin sila sa mga english speaking people.People like them need to grew-up and learn what makes them feel stupid or ignorant. Learning another language is a challenges.Hamon sa ating kakayahan matuto ng salita ng ibang unggoy. Halos malaglag ako sa aking kinauupuan sa mga pahayag mo na nakasaad sa ingles.
Kung sana ginamit mo na lang ang ating pambansang wika, malamang ay mas naintindihan ka ng ating mga kababayan. Sana po kung magbibigay tayo ng komento tungkol sa pag-iingles gamit ang salitang ingles ay siguraduhin nating malinis sa mga pagkakamali sa grammar. Hindi po ito isang insulto. Pakiusap, isa lang pong constructive criticism. Push Onward Philippines! ANONYMOUS:
I SUPPOSE YOU WERE THE SAME ONE ON (51HOW STUPID CAN YOU BE. YOUR IDEAS ARE NONSENSE. YOUR OBSERVATIONS ARE DUMB. YOUR COMMENTS ARE IDIOTIC. IF I WERE YOU, I WOULD REFRAIN FROM BLOGGING. ENGLISH WILL JEOPARDIZE THE NATION'S GROWTH? THEN BLAME FRENCH FOR THE CORRUPTION. BLAME RUSSIAN FOR THE HIGH UNEMPLOYMENT. BLAME ITALIAN FOR THE LOW STANDARD OF LIVING. WHAT SCHOOL DID YOU COME FROM? WE NEVER HAVE THE COURAGE TO ADMIT OUR MISTAKES SO WE NEVER WERE ABLE TO CORRECT THEM. THAT'S OUR PROBLEM MARCOS DIED BUT HE NEVER OWNED RESPOSIBILITY FOR HIS ATROCITIES. ERAP ESTRADA WAS JAILED BUT UP TO NOW HE PROFESSES INNOCENSE. WE ARE NOW ONE OF THE WORLD'S MOST CORRUPT COUNTRY AND ARROYO BLAMES IT ON THE MEDIA. AND THIS NATION IS POOR AND CONTINUE TO BE SO BECAUSE OF MORONS LIKE YOU. ANOTHER THING MR. ANONYMOUS.
REMEMBER THE LADY NA NAKABANGGA AT NAKAPATAY NG 10-YEAR OLD NA BATA SA ATENEO SEVERAL DAYS AGO NA SA HALIP AMININ ANG KASALANAN AT HUMINGI NG TWAD AY SINISI ANG PRENO NIYA. WELL, PUNTAHAN M,O SIYA AT SUPORTAHAN. YOU BELONG TO THE SAME TRIBE. If the former Baguio Colleges Foundation, Saint Louis Boy's High School, and Saint Louis University used any "mother tongue" as a medium of instruction, I don't think I would be able to teach English in China.
As I look here..it's quite hard to join in now but..Here's some thoughts
How come nobody's making a bill on improving the Tagalog language? Can you be hypocritical when you're against the English bill when you reply here in English? Dapat bang nagtatagalog ako sa tugon ko dito para hindi ako hippokrito? And looking at it. What would make learning about Physics easier? Explain the details in English or to a language to which you are well known with besides English? the real issue here is not English or Tagalog or even Filipino. What we are talking about is how to go about teaching these languages (i.e. English, Filipino or even French) in such a way that the children would understand and comprehend the rules of grammar and proper usage for communication. It has been shown in past studies that by using the mother tongue (i.e. the language first learned by the child)the children learn the second language such as English better. By using the mother tongue as a medium of instruction, the child better understands what is being taught to him. Mother tongue as a medium of instruction does not hinder the learning of a second languages, on the contrary, children learn it better.
This program has been implemented in Kalinga and has shown a very positive outcome when it comes to learning English. So if we want to learn English, i personally think that it would be better if we would teach it by using the language in which the child understands, and this is through the mother tongue. It has been effective in the United States in teaching English to Spanish first language speakers, why not try it out here in the Philippines. Let us be open-minded to changes and adapt new ways in our educational system. This is the key to being globally competitive. Let's face it, our ability to speak and write English has helped us land a job abroad. At sa panahon ngayon, kelangan mong mag-abroad para di gutomin pamilya mo.
Buti na lang kahit papaano meron akong natutunang English sa high school at college. It helps to have an English background. I bet those misguided nationalists who frowned on the English lessons during my time are very much sorry for taking it for granted. Anong benefit makukuha mo sa tagalog? Kahit di ka mag-aral, matutunan mong magtagalog, di ba? And so for me, let's find a way to improve English. At kung bumuti na ang kalagayan ng bansa natin, sabhin niyo at mangunguna akong ipaglaban ang ating wika. Subukan nyo naman na mag-aral ng bisaya , cebuano, ilokano, eh palagay ko pag dating nyo sa Bisaya na laki sa Maynila magiging anga kayo kasi di nyo maintindihan yung salita ng bisaya...kaya nga wala tayong asenso kasi ang tagal ng topic yang English as medium of teaching di pa rin nabubura sa isipan ng mga henyo nating mambabatas...buti pa dito sa africa...ang daming intsik di marunong mag Ingles pero asenso sila...pag tinanong mo sagot sayo No Understand English...hehehe pero sila ang me mga negosyo.
magtinda ka rin ng mangga para umasenso ka,ba´t ka maiinggit sa mga intsik kung gusto mo yumaman gaya ng mga intsik gayahin mo rin sila.Kaya asensado ang mga intsik kasi matipid sila,hindi sila gaya ng pinoy ubos-ubos biyaya kaya kinabukasan ay nakatunganga.
Santol...yung puso mo ..sabi ko lang yun bilang halimbawa na di mo kailangan yung English speaking ka para maging competitive tayo...saan ba tayo nakikikumpetensya para umasenso ...basahin mo yung sinasabi nila di ba para sa negosyo...eh tingnan nyo nga yung mga nagtitinda dyan sa may divisoria na intsik , taiwanese, me koreano pa...eh di naman marunong mag English...pati nga tagalog di marunong ..eh sila ang me negosyo ngayon dun...bkit kaya ganun..If we believe that English be used as medium for teaching in our school is good for our country ...why those politicians at the time of Marcos era think otherwise...you mean to say di nila pinag-aralan yung pag babawas ng pagtuturo ng English ...kaya nga binago nila kasi nga di naman daw umaasenso ang mga pinoy kahit Pa English English pa tayo...
Wag mong i-lahat na asensado ang lahat ng mga Intsik. Ilang porsyento lang yan sa kabuuan ng populasyon nila. Pero libutin mo ang mga siyudad nilat at napakaraming jobless, talo pa tayo. Kya nga maraming Intsik napadpad sa karagatan natin upang gumawa ng illegal fishing at ang iba namay nang-ssmuggle ng shabu.
rene...di ko naman sinasabi na lahat ng intsik asensado ...ikaw lang nagsabi nun...ang punto ko lang di sapat na batayan ang pag asenso ng isang tao lalo na ng bansang Pilipinas ang kaalamn sa English ...sipag ng tao at tyaga ang dapat na puhunan..at isa pa yung di pusong mamon...na makarinig o makabasa lang ng ayaw nya eh magrereact na agad ng masama...kasi ang pinoy likas na reactionary at at pusong mamon...
Madam Winnie
Please correct any error if i´d make a mistakes on translating english into tagalog vocabulary: One day,Isang araw I saw,Akoý nakakita One bird,Isang ibon Flying,Lumilipad I shoot,binaril ko I pick,pinulot ko I cook,niluto ko I ate,kinain ko I´m full,busog na ko. I CAN SPEAK FLUENT ILOKANO AS MY MOTHER IS A PURE ILOKANA. I CAN SPEAK FLUENT TAGALOG AS MY FATHER IS A PURE TAGALOG. I CAN SPEAK A LITTLE ILONGGO AS MY WIFE IS AN ILONGGA.
DOES THIS MAKE ME PATRIOTIC? NOT UNLESS I'M WILLING TO PUT THE WELFARE OF MY COUNTRY AND MY COUNTRYMEN FIRST AND FOREMOST. AT YAN ANF KULANG NATING MGA PILIPINO. MASYADO TAYONG MAKASARILI AT WALANG PAKIALAM SA KAPWA. TAGALOG FOR PATRIOTISM? THINK AGAIN! What amazes me is all of these people are complaining that without English, the won't be globally competative and "world class workers". With due respect to those OFWs, honestly, what makes OFWs valuable to countries like the Middle East? Is it simply because Filipinos understand English? No, what makes Filipinos "competative" is not the use of English--its the low salary Filipino are willing to accept compared to others with the same or lower skills. Look at Thailand. A white "native speaker" gets 3x as much pay as a Filipino. A Taiwanese factory workers gets more benefits than a Filipino factory worker and chances are the factory is owned by another Taiwanese (unlike the Philippines where the factory is probably owned by a Tsinoy, Taiwanese, or a Filipino "dummy" acting on behalf of an American company to circumvent the ownership laws). Don't you think its strange that for many years we were exporting doctors to work as maids in HK and Singapore? Don't you think its really lamentable that our government is so corrupt and uninterested in the economic disparity of the population that it sees exporting people as "bagong bayani" instead of a brain drain and a mass migration of skills? Filipinos for God's sake are developing the oil industry in Libya while we have not been able to exploit more of our own natural resources. Furthermore, why does English have to be imposed on everyone? An employer in Dubai can simply hire 20 Bisaya speaking wielders and one Bilingual English-Bisaya speaking manager--which is what some countries like Japan used to do. The used to hire Iranians and Mexicans and then hire a manager for each group. The US used to do that as well with plantations in Hawai'i and California.
English does not make one more competitive to work as an OFW--having a good work ethic, skills matching the occupation, and willingness to accept a lower salary compared to the nationalities are. Furthermore, again, studies from the Philippines to Russia to the Netherlands have shown that mastering one's native does make it easier to learn a second or third language. These people that complain that their children are not exposed to enough English at school, well, sheesh, send them to an internet cafe and get cable. Likewise, if you want to learn more Tagalog, live in Manila and watch just Tagalog programing and movies. If you guys want to have Bisaya or whatever in your school system, then go ahead. Its only Bisaya-speakers that you hear this type of unwillingness to learn Tagalog. Not even the Moros complain as much as Visayans do. Bisaya can be taught in the school. It is allowable in the constitution. In case you haven't read the constitution here's Article 15: Section 6. The national language of the Philippines is Filipino. As it evolves, it shall be further developed and enriched on the basis of existing Philippine and other languages. Subject to provisions of law and as the Congress may deem appropriate, the Government shall take steps to initiate and sustain the use of Filipino as a medium of official communication and as language of instruction in the educational system. Section 7. For purposes of communication and instruction, the official languages of the Philippines are Filipino and, until otherwise provided by law, English. The regional languages are the auxiliary official languages in the regions and shall serve as auxiliary media of instruction therein. Spanish and Arabic shall be promoted on a voluntary and optional basis. If one is serious about learning a second language there are many ways thanks to the internet. Why don't you blame our great POPULATION as the reason kung bakit di pa rin tayo makakaahon sa kahirapan? Di ka ba nagtataka? Kahit saang sulok ng mundo merong Pilipino? Sa America pa lang ilang milyon na. Pero bakit hikahos pa rin si Juan Dela Cruz? Kasi sobrang daming tao na sa Pinas. Sobra na, tama na. Umasenso man si Pedro, meron namang Juan, Pablo, at Jose, na walang ginawa kundi mag-anak lang nga mag-anak.
I agree.
Maraming OFWs na ang lalaki ng sweldo pero di naman sila mahusay mag english, verbal and written. Skilled lang talaga. Kung OFW ka sa Europe, di mo kailangan ng English para maka survive doon. Bawal ng English eh. Why do we aspire for global competitiveness? For bragging rights? 10 million OFWs and our country is still deep-shit in corruption. Is it the english-speaking countries that determines who can be called 'globally competiive"? Our top politicians speak english well but never contributed/resulted to our nation's prosperity and global competitiveness. In other words, the bill is not intended to benefit the country, but only intended to send more Filipinos abroad, para lalaki pa kotong ng mga politiko. Itong bill ni Gullas has a tinge of "colonial mentality" painted into it. Can somebody propose a bill instead for mandatory foreign language study (other than english) to be taught from Grade 5 to HS?? THAT, would really give is the edge.... Mark,
That,s it ..we filipinos are being competitive overseas not because we are good in English communication..but because we are good in our working habits plus the fact that most OFW's accept the lowest salary which other nationality dont' want to accept..wala eh ginawang negosyo na ang mga pinoy ng ating gobyerno walang salary cap na tinatawag para maprotect ang mga pinoy OFW's yung mga hiring agency sa ating bansa eh tatakutin ka na pag di tinanggap yung sweldong offer eh kukuha ng iba...syempre kakagatin ng aplikanteng pinoy kasi di naman kikitain dyan sa bansa natin yung kikitain nya sa abroad...pag dating nya sa abroad dun nya malalaman na yung kasama nya sa trabaho at pareho silang posisyun na kapareho nyang dumating eh mas doble ang sweldo sa kanya..pag malas malas pa yung pinoy sya pa ang interpreter ng kasama nyang banyaga pag dating sa English communication ...hay pinoy ...bandang huli me darating pang bagong kasamahan na banyaga din ...mas malaki pa rin ang sweldo kumpara sa kanya kahit pareho sila ng job...hay pinoy kasi nga walang protection sa gov't ..ang goberyerno is after sa dami ng mapadala sa abroad kesa kapakanan ng mga OFW's The problem with insisting in using Tagalog (you may call it Filipino if you would insist but structurally they are the same) as a medium of instruction is you acquire both side effects:
a) by using a language of instruction other than which the student is proficient an unnecessary communication gap is introduced; and b) by not using English you would miss the chance of practicing English as a medium of instruction. However if one has to acquire a certain skill one has to focus his attention on acquiring that skill in the most efficient way. If the purpose of learning mathematics and physics is to speak English well then let the language of instruction for this subject be English. Then I would not be surprised why we flunk on these subjects. ---------------------------------------- Ang kabaluktutan po kung ipipilit na Tagalog (tawagin mo man itong Filipino manatiling pareho ang kanilang balarila) ang gawing wika sa pagtuturo ay pareho nating makukuha ang dalawang di ninanais na epekto: a) sa paggamit ng wikang di kabisado ng mag-aaral pinapahirapan natin siyang matuto; at b) sa di paggamit ng Ingles, sinayang natin ang opurtunidad upang masanay ang sarili sa pasasalita nito. Ngunit kung may gusto kang matutunan dapat gamitin mo ang pinakaepektibong paraan upang ika'y matuto. Kung ang ninanais sa pag-aaral ng math at physics ay ang magsanay masalita ng Ingles, hayaang Ingles ang gamiting wika sa pagtuturo nito at di ako magtataka memoryado natin ang theorem pero di naintindihan ang pasikutsikot na konsepto. ---------------------------------------- Ang nakaparat kung ipamugos jud nga Tinagalog (tawgon man kining Filipino managsama lang jud ang ilang grammar) ang gamiton sa pagtudlo pareho na hinuong ang duha ka apan: a) kung wala kaayo masabti sa estudyanti ang gigamit nga sinultihan gilisodlisod ta lang jud siya pagsamot og kat-on; ug unya b) kay dili man Iningles ang gigamit nga sinultihan gisayangan ta ang kahigayonan nga magtuon pagsulti ini isip medium of instruction. Ang kaso kay kung buot jud ta makat-on, di ba ang labing epektibo man jud na paagi aron ta makat-on ang atong gamiton. Kung sa pagtuon og mat ug physics maoy tinuod na tuyo ang pagpraktis moiningles nan pasagding Iningles ang gamitong sinultihan sa pagtudlo. Dili lang unya ta makurat sa kaanad nato moresayt sa tanang theorems ug laws apan di jud to kaesplikar naunsang nadugtong ni sa tong pagkinabuhi. We should be proud being a Filipino who not only able to speak english but other languages as well. That's why you can see Filipinos in every part of the world is because we can communicate very well.
This is just a matter of adaptation or not. Speaking English does not make you less patriotic but rather opening yourself to other avenues of learning. Ask Jose Rizal if he had been less patriotic when he learned French, Hebrew, English and 19 other languages. He did that because he was open to learn many things and because he traveled a lot that time - he absorbed a lot of knowledge and language that made him into a renaissance man.
If you want to learn, then you have to persevere to learn, to self-study. Our government is not perfect, our education system is not perfect and there will be no such thing as perfection in this world. The schools are only teaching 1/8 of the knowledge that you need to acquire - so equipping yourself with the knowledge and skills solely depends on you - if you are open to understanding of different knowledge systems and languages. There are certain words in Science and Math that are very hard to equate or translate into Filipino. So it is proper to teach them in the way they are supposed to be - in English. On the other hand, subjects that can be taught in Filipino should be thought in Filipino. I believe in everybody's capacity to learn and even mastering different languages. It is just that if you want to start changing your life - you have to start the change within you. Complaining about the government and its imperfection will get you to nowhere. If you want to change the big picture, you need to change the small details first - and that includes yourself. I'm a patriotic Pinoy but I choose to write in English for this comment because I presume KP finds it easier to read.
Anyway, English is a language we all need to learn if we are to survive in this globalized world, whether you're patriotic or not. The great nationalists Claro M. Recto, Lorenzon Tanada and Renato Constantino all used flawless English. Their English may actually be better than yours and mine KP. Unfortunately these distinguished late gentlemen could effectively reach only a few ordinary people because of the fact that not everyone is able to master English, no matter how hard you try. Ex-US President George Bush if fact spoke atrocious English even if that's his mother tongue and educated at Yale at that (who says there's no palakasan in the States?) That's exactly my point. Those eloquent in English through the English-as-medium-of-instruction approach are in the minority. Only a few thrive in this kind approach, just like only a few will be able to survive when thrown into deep water without having learned how to swim first. Using English as medium of instruction to non-English speakers is not the only way to master English. Indeed it's not the best way to learn English. Using English as medium of instruction doesn't guarantee national development and prosperity. Other nations use English as medium of instruction too, like the former British colonies, like India, Pakistan and those in Africa, and now (again!) the Philippines. On the other hand, please tell me what medium of instruction is used in countries such as Japan, Korea, China, Germany, France, Italy, Norway, Sweden, Denmark and Israel? Yes, their own languages, in Israel by the way, it's modern Hebrew. Can you compare now how these countries and those insisting on English as medium of instruction fare in economic and technological development? Of course there are more factors behind development other than language. The Philippines, for instance, really has no blueprint for development in the way that Japan or South Korea had when they were trying to catch up with the West. Our leaders are too bereft of vision and too corrupt so that their main interest is to amass wealth and their main foreign policy thrust is to ingratiate themselves to the US and the other rich countries to get their help in preserving their staying in power indefinitely. Still, using mother tongue, as well as national language, as medium of instruction would facilitate greater national unity than English can ever hope to be. I grew up in Mindanao but people there who have finished at least the elementary grades are fluent enough in Tagalog/Filipino. Just observe how TV reporters interview children for instance in Sulu and Basilan in Tagalog. With a more purposeful and sound economic program as well as better-funded education, including better-paid teachers, learning will definitely curve upwards. The mother tongue is the most effective learning medium because knowledge acquired in school can easily be integrated into day-to-day life. Whereas the tendency to memorize lessons and reading assignments while not really absorbing them, is greatest when a foreign language, like English, is used. And, mea culpa, that happened to me. I got good grades because I memorized the answers to questions. It was only much later that I achieved genuine reading comprehension skills. Generating my own, i.e., more or less original ideas came even later. Just imagine how much original thought and creative works could have been done if we were made to think, write and speak in the language we use at home and community. Mother tongues vary of course, depending on which region in the Philippines one comes from. However, despite all the differences, they are all closely related to each other than any non-Philippine language, foremost of which is English. In other words, Philippine languages are much closer to each other than each of them is to English. Haven't you marveled at how people, women especially, from the provinces, like Samar or Leyte, with hardly any formal education, come to Manila to become domestics and factory workers learn Tagalog in no time? Filipino or Manila-based Tagalog, whatever it is, is definitely in the best position to be the medium of instruction at least from the fourth grade and up. That's the reality right now. Maybe English could have been it, if we got to the point in which our various languages died out or nearly did so, like in the case of Scottish Gaelic, so that English replaced it as the day-to-day language as well as medium of instruction in Scotland. But that's not the case in the Philippines, where our native languages have survived. As to inadequate vocabulary, we can always adopt from other languages. There's no better example of this than English itself. If you think that the words 'cafe', coup d'etat', 'curriculum' 'restaurant' 'boondocks' 'ex-oficio' are English in origin, think again. In fact more than half of words in the current English vocabulary are borrowed/adopted from other languages. There's no stopping Filipino/Tagalog from doing the same. In fact it's being done now. Professional educators, linguistic experts and linguistic anthropologists all agree that to have English as medium of instruction is suicidal. On the other hand, we can master English even if it's not the medium of instruction. If you visit non-English speaking countries like Sweden, Germany and Norway, you'll be amazed at how well they speak English even if they learn it as a second language. Even more amazing is Israel, where Hebrew is the medium of instruction. What makes it even more remarkable is that in addition to being entirely foreign to English, Hebrew is also written in a different script, which by itself takes time to master. But has that stopped Israelis from becoming fluent in English? So, is proficiency in English possible only by using it as the medium of instruction? No. Can original and creative work be achieved only when using English? Definitely not. In fact, it tends to stunt it. Dito sa Nigeria, maangas ang mga Filipino. Grabe kung mang lait sa 'pidgin' english ng Nigeria. Pero kung pakikinggan mo, di hamak na mas mahusay pa ang average Nigerian na mag english (british) kesa sa pinoy.
Pidgin english nga nigerian, pero carabao-english naman ang pinoy. at least yung Nigerian knows his "f" from "p", and his "v" from "b". Ang nakikita kung problema in our proficiency in the English language is that, pagtapos ng college or HS, depende na yun sa work environment mo. Kahit pa seguro graduate ka ng UP, kung sa barrio din lang assignment, i'm sure bababa din quality ng english proficiency mo. Yung ibang pinoy na hindi nakatapos ng HS, pero naka punta sa mga english-speaking countries, their english improve by constant expoure and use. hindi nga lang sila conscious sa grammar pero we can say that they can speak enough english to be understood. Kahit na English pa ang maging medium of instruction, kung di naman ma support sa work environment, mawawala din ang proficiency sa pagsasalita ng english. and the same is true for written english. Kumbaga, practice makes perfect. Also, something is wrong with the way English is taught in schools these days. Their is emphasis on pronounciation (slang) than proper grammar (tenses, specially). Of course when you go overseas into non-English country, it will not be apparent. Europeans themselves speak horrible english than Jimmy Santos. In other words, di naman ibig sabihin na kesyo hindi conotic english mo eh mahirapan ka makahanap ng trabaho. Nasa skills yan, wala sa english proficiency. Nasa Indian, wala sa pana, para tumarget. Basta we can read and write in english, solve na tayo dyan. Japan, Indonesia, Malaysia, Thailand and China never bothered forcing their citizens to learn english. But they are more prosperous and advance than us. So,on the Gullas bill, para kaninong interest ba ang pag i-english? Para saan? Para dumami OFWs? To #59: What's your point? I understand your frustrations about the so many existing problems/issues that our country have, but let's not be so philosophical or sarcastic about it either. We may have not have a perfect country but we're not the worst country in the world either. Sometimes Filipinos (e.g. media people, unscrupulous politicians, etc.) are the ones painting our country to look so bad in the eyes of the world and that's not good if you want to be respected by other countries. Way back, an article was written by a Korean national that Filipinos lack of love for their country. To show your love for your country is what you can do for your country and not what the country can do for you, he said. I liked that.
At any rate, it just so happened that English as a medium of instruction is one of the so many pending issues/bills that is still being argued today. Again, I reiterate that Filipinos should support Gullas Bill. There is nothing to lose here, instead, we gain something (long term) that is beneficial to all Filipinos (need I elaborate?). If we once had it, why can't we have it again? What's stopping the passage of this law? While I respect the sentiments of our other kababayans about the mother tounge teaching, I urge them to open their eyes. One of the arguments is that it's not good for the grade school children to switch to english teaching so early as it will confuse them. How will it confuse them when instruction in english happens only in the classroom? Generally, at home, a Filipino family usually talk in tagalog. I also know for a fact that some parents in the Phil. do talk to their children in english and there's nothing wrong with that. Children do have excellent retentive memories compare to adult and learning english early on serves a good foundation to them. They learn fast whether english or not. Realistically, because we're now living in a fast-changing world, Filipinos in general would no longer stay in one place - there will be no stopping- they will continue to move or work to another country but if you are not armed with the english language at least, you will have a problem communicating and that's a FACT. Think about that. Before I forget, many thanks to that poster who corrected me that the medium of instruction was changed under Cory's term and not under Erap's. I have an interesting perspective about this one. I speak English, but I am from Scotland in Britain. One can speak English, but never loose their own character, or identity.
Filipinos will be no different. For example phrases like this- "I know I know..." "Ano??" Sounds fun and rhymes. Makes me smile. It's a lyrical language and fun to listen to. You will still have your unique identity,but embrace the universal language for the sake of progressing the Philippines in a positive direction. I love your country and want more people to visit your friendly place. My step daughter is 12, but unfortunately she cannot speak English. I do my best to teach myself tagalog so I can try to converse. What I find disappointing is the lack of infrastructure in place for her to obtain books to learn. The children miss classes they miss course content. Or if are too small to see the board, I can see there is a myriad of problems. But Filipino's don't give up! Success is never giving up after many failures. I believe that we need to use English as a medium of teaching. I work for in the call center industry and English proficiency is very important. I've noticed that the newly hired agents speak English with very recognizable grammatical errors, incorrect pronunciation, and the like. It is somehow irritating to hear especially since we are being degraded once they find out we are not from the US.
English is an international language...that is your great weapon wherever you go or even applying for jobs.... unless here in our country ...walang problem we can use our own languge...di ba?...Well as long you know how to speak in english and you understand to talk with foriegn men its not a problem guys... the important is you understand and you can communicate well..
I am a newly hired call center agent and i can say that having been educated by my teachers during my elementary days has made me a good communicator today. it all sums up to having a strong foundation during our elementary days and bringing it up in high school ang college. it's a pity that some adults has reached their age without then trying to construct a good english sentence. in my line of work, i still hear some of my co-associates syllabicating the english sentences in filipino. okay lang un but depende na rin siguro sa kausap....
Yes, besides correct grammar, etc., I suggest many of our teachers need to be re-educated in pronouncing the 'Fs'/'Ps' and 'Vs'/ 'Bs' correctly (e.g. 'pibe' when they meant "five"). They must work hard to correct these deficiences in order not to pass this onto their pupils/students they are teaching. Not only you hear this problem from ordinary people but also from some well-known personalities whether it be in show business (some hosts from noontime game shows actually), in politics, etc. You see and hear these characters on TV all the time who are obviously (no offense) products of this poor teaching.
Hi Mikaela,
I totally agree with you. Even famous or shall we say infamous Bb. Pilipinas personality share the same problem moreso to expressing their thought or idea. Representative Jose Gullas of Cebu, sponsor? of Gullas Bill came from another time and an old school politician. His Bill may be fine but it only added insult to injury to struggling filipinos. We already have existing ways of teaching english in our schools, why not he find a way how to improve the academic standard of all public schools and make our children be competitive in the future in science, technology and enterpreneurship.
The Gullas bill is for desperate filipinos in a dead end job like call centers and as a competitive low paid ofw. The Gullas Bill is an insult to working Filipinos force to work abroad by our corrupt politician. Hi Finoy,
Good point of discussion! However, can you please discuss your idea to improve the academic standard for Public Schools? Why then can't we have Pilipino and English as a medium of instruction? When I was still in school it's bilingual. Just because you will teach in English doesn't mean you're not nationalistic. The reality is when these students starts working isn't most of the correspondence in the office done in English. What about the college books, aren't they written in English? The stronger the foundation of our students in both English and Filipino the better chances for them to understand their lessons and finish school. Just my one cent opinion.
alam nyo isa lang naman ang dahilan eh...mga teachers ngayon eh masyado ng mahihina kumpara dati..ng nag-aral ako sa public school mula elem.hanggang h.school magagaling ang mga teachers noon...ngayon ipasok mo ang anak mo sa public grade 4 na hindi pa din marunong magbasa at magsalita maski kapirasong englis... nasa teacher at gabay ng magulang ang lalong ikagagaling ng mga estudyante natin lalo na sa panahon ngayon....
Napakasimple lamang po. Mas madaling maintindihan kapag sariling salita ang gamit.
Pero kung mag-aaral tayo ng Enlish, sabi nila ay magaling na tayo sa wikang English ay yung dapat ay maiintindihan tayo at maiintindihan natin yung mga taong talagang nagsasalita ng English. We need to study English more. Give emphasis on SPEAKING and LISTENING. excerpt from above article:
"Studies in country after country bear this out. Teaching in an official school language that is not the mother tongue is a major barrier in the child's learning." It is very clear... The author of this Gullan bill and our congressmen should research and review these studies... DECS should find ways how our students achieve mastery in english, math, science, values and patriotism... and to all parents, no matter what program does our government implements... your guidance is always a major key to your child success... Good Luck! Samtang nag basa ko sa mga reaksyon ani na blog, wala nako napugngan ang akong gibating pagka-ulaw.
Muwa ko ug niuko sa akong lingkuranan, namula ug niinit akong nawong. Naunsa man intawon mo? Nagsinawayay sa mga sayop sa pag-isturya ug English, nagpalabwanay ug Tagalog ug Bisaya. Samtang nagpataasay mo sa inyong kaugalingon karon, nag atubang sa inyong computer sa inyong mga aircon na kuwarto, milyon milyon ka bata ang nagtuon ug English sa mga public schools, naminaw ni mam ug ni sir nag in-eninglish kung aha nagkabali-bali ang paglitok sa F sa P, sa E sa I, sa O sa U. Kung kada-bata muagi ug English na subject kaisa sa isa ka tuig sugod grade 1 hantud fourth year high school, labaw pa na sa panginahanglang makat-on ug mag-master ug english. ang kinahanglang tirahon mao ang kalidad sa pagtudlo ug kalidad sa magtutudlo. dili kinahanglan i sakpripisyo ang pagkat-on sa ubang subjects sama sa math ug science, arun lamang sa english. sige, tudlu ug math ug science in english. bahala na magkakulang kulang ang eksplanasyon ug pag pasabot sa mga bata basta lang magamit ang english? kalidad. pila kabuol sa inyoha musakrpisyo sa inyong dagkong suweldo para mutabang ug agak sa sunod generasyon. gutom ang mag maestra. Ala eh! hindi kita maintindihan. meron ba english translation yan?
Ala wen garud. Agusar tayo ti ilokano a mangisuro ti iskuwela. Haan ko met maibaga a tagalog ti sao mi iddiay balay.
Rugyan tayon: ti Inglis ti tinapay ket "blid"; ti Inglis ti rangtay ket "blids"; Diak ammo ti ilokano na, ngem ammok nga ti "blid" ket makasugat. Ay! Madi kon gayam ti Inglis... makaulaw! what about mandarin,fokien as medium for instruction....do you agree?
Marhay pang gamiton niatong opisyal na tataramon an bicol na lengguwahe para an gabos na pilipino makaukod magtaram ning bicol at para dai na kamo mag-adon sa abroad sa bicol na sana kamo maghanap ning trabaw,tagatanom kamote,balingoy,mais,monggo,tubo,niyog,mangga lansones atbpang prutas na marhay sa lawas niato para hindi pirmi nagaherelang at para mabuay alawig at maogma.
Kung si Kaldero(ay si "Chiz"Escudero)ang maging presidente ng pinas yan ang dapat una niang gibon ang "bicol na tataramon as medium of instruction" Maogmang aldaw po sainyo gabos! bakit gusto pa nyong baguhin at palitan ang napagpasyahan na noon panahon ni tita cory na tagalog o pilipino ang gamitin sa lahat ng asignatura upang ang wikang pambansa ay ganap ng maging malusog ang diwa at para umunlad na ang ating bansa.
Ang wikang pambansa ang susi ng tagumpay ng mga pilipino.Kung inyo lang gagamitin sa wastong pakikipag-usap,kalakaran at maging sa batas pribado o pampubliko man ay magiging maunlad ang ating bansa kung ang lahat ng lider at maging ang mga ordinaryong mamamayan ay hindi na dadalhin sa ibang bansa ang yaman(salapi,ginto,pilak,perlas)panatilihin nasa atin bansa ang lahat ng yaman ng lupang hinirang,kailanman walang pilipino magpapaalipin sa banyaga kung ayaw nilang magpaalipin,di na baleng magdildil ng asin,kumain ng kamote,matulog ng gutom,wag lang paalipin sa dayuhan. Kaya inaalipin ang pilipino dahil gusto ng pilipino gawin alipin,kung ayaw,malaya na ang pilipino gawin ang kanilang gusto para umunlad,iyan ang pinamana sa atin ni uncle Sam.Kalayaan gawin ang gusto nyong gawin,basta hindi kayo nakakasakit sa damdamin ng inyong kapwa at hindi nyo pinapahiya ang karangalan ng inyong bansa. Bakit mayaman ang Estados Unidos dahil sila ang mga taong gaya ng agila sa halip na maging sunod-sunuran sa banyaga,sila ang dapat masunod.Kung gusto ng pilipino yumaman,mayaman na ang ating bansa,sagana ang ating bansa sa yaman para mabuhay na malusog,maligaya at kapakipakinabang.Kaya lang sa halip na pagyamanin natin at alagaan,paunlarin ang sariling atin,ano ang ginawa ng mga henyo natin,ibang bansa ang kanilang pinauunlad,ibang bansa ang kanilang pinagsisilbihan,pero inang bayan ang sa kanila nagpalaki na maging malusog,maligaya at kapakipakinabang. Ang dapat itakwil ng pilipino ang mga dayuhan mapagsamantala,gaya ng mga dayuhan nagdadala ng mga gamot na sumisira sa utak ng ating mga henerasyon.Sila ang dapat lipulin dahil sila ang salot sa lipunan.Sinisira nila ang kaisipan ng pilipino para maghirap ng husto ang mga pilipino. Dapat ang gobyerno alagaan nila ang mamamayan laban sa mga mapagsamantalang dayuhan,gaya sa ibang bansa kung kailangan kamatayan ang ihatol sa kanila dapat lang para hindi na sila pamarisan.Kaya lang malabo yatang malinis pa ang kontaminado ng lipunan dahil huli na para pigilan makapasok ang mga dragonian nagdadala ng nakakabaliw,nakakapraning,nakakasira ng kinabukasn ng kabataan. Bomba atomika o nukleyar ispray na lang ang sagot para masupil ang mga kalokohan pinaggagawa ng masasamang damo,yon nga lang damay ang mga mabubuting kahoy. Sa wakas ng mundo lahat ng galing sa lupa sa lupa babalik,lahat ng galing sa langit,babalik sa langit. Para sa akin tama lang na maging competitive tayo globally sa pagsasalita ng English.
Di nyo ba napapansin ang pagdami ng mga Koreano sa ating bansa na karamihan sa kanila ay ang dahilan ng pagpunta sa atin ay para matuto ng salitang English. Napanood nyo ba ang documentary sa National Geographic tungkol sa China na nagsisimula ng magsipag-aral ng salitang English. Sa Japan, kumukuha pa sila ng mga guro para magturo lamang ng salitang English. Mayayamang bansa na ang mga ito pero gumagawa pa sila ng paraan para matuto lamang magsalita ng English. Tapos tayo sa kasawiang palad isang mahirap na bansa ay kailangan pang pagtalunan kung dapat nating gawin ito.... NAMAN...! that's true....swerte na nga lang ng mga pinoy na talagang fluent mag-english...pero no worries kasi there is still time to learn and practice good english....
Hindi pumunta ang mga koreano, indian at chinese sa pilipinas para matuto ng english. Pumunta sila dahil mas maluwag ang corruption at madaling kuwartahan para kumuha ng lisensya para magbusiness. Pag may business sila dito mura ang sahod at madaling e exploit ang mga trabahante. Sila ay illegal alien na may perang nakakasilaw sa mga kurap na beaurucrats.
Bicol as mother tongue.
English as father tongue or as a medium of instruction. Tagalog o Pilipino para sa pakikipag-usap sa lahat ng pilipino. D=para sa pakikipag-usap sa Diyos at sa mga demonyo. cool na cool di ba? I do not have enough info on the proposed bill, however, it might be safe to say that there are pros and cons in this proposal. I guess, if the objective is increasing the Filipino workers' competitiveness then this might be the way to go but it will take a few years before the benefit of this bill is realized.
The study cited in this article might give some hope in increasing the quality of education among Filipinos and I believe that this should be prioritized alongside the improvement of our English competency. But at this stage, all of this will take time and further studies should be able to guide legislators on the way to go. My hubby bought brand new washing maschine,the manual has four different languages of instructions:
1:Deutsch2.Chinese3.French4.English If not by english manual,would i knew how to assemble it and make it work properly.English saves my day. Yes for english as medium of instruction and as international languages. dito sa middle east yung gamot na pine prescribe ng doktor sa ibat ibang lengwahe pero wala ang wika natin,paano kung di kami marunong umintindi ng english kawawa lalo tayong mga pinoy.kaya ok lang na ituro at pagbutihin pa ang pagtuturo sa kabataan natin.
Sin-o si E?
E=EngkangtO E=nglisH E=EnteR E=EverywherE E=EverybodY E=EveryonE E=Eternal needs. E=END It's a great concept if our students will use their native tongue maging ito ay Tagalog, Ilocano, Kapangpangan, etc. bilang medium of instructions in their respective schools. The benefit will be learning faster and they will have much more effective ability to understand and appreciate anuman ang kanilang akademya. However, the reality is this can only happen in progressive countries such as Japan, Germany, France, etc. because they really don't need to learn english if they dont want to. Rich countries are self sufficient na hindi na nila kailangang umasa sa ibang nasyon for the most part. As a matter of fact, anything from foreign countries has to be translated in their own language. Hollywood movies for example are always translated in French once they hit movies houses in France. Unfortunately we are not in the same league. Lets face it, ang gobyerno natin sa Pilipinas ay walang alam i promote kung hindi paanong maihahanap ng trabaho ang mga Pinoys sa abroad. It hurts to admit but it is the reality. We may be in the same boat as India and Mexico where migration is the name of the game to promote better lives for their citizens. (Fortunately for India, the new era of technology brings new hope in the horizon) Anyway, the difference is India teaches english in school (possibly because they were under the British rule at one time) while Mexico doesn't. In California's Silicon Valley where I live, Indian immigrants enjoy the highest standard of living. They are mostly engineers, doctors, scientists or in other professional field. Mostly were educated in India but they speak english fluently (with british accent) because english was their medium of instructions. Pinoy professional's especially ones who graduated from U.P., Ateneo and the likes are thriving the same. Mag pa salamat na lang sila sa english na pinag aralan nila sa Pilipinas. On the other hand, Central American immigrants (no offense to them,) no matter how educated they are in their repective countries, tend to fill in low paying jobs because of their inability to communicate. Sadly, some of them were college graduates but working as janitors. My point is since our country's main source of economy and our government's only concern is the importation of OFW, I think the sooner they learn english, the better, because english is the universal language gustuhin man natin o hindi. I was fortunate na akoy pinanganak sa Pilipinas at nag aral sa private school diyan dahil required ang english sa school namin noon so ng mag college ako dito sa U.S., it wasnt as difficult for me na mag aral compared sa mga Vietnamese or other nationalities na counterpart ko sa school na very limited ang kapasidad sa pag- i-english. In conclusion, the mere fact na umaasa lang ang gobyerno natin sadly sa job availability sa abroad, siguro in my opinion, it will be to our kids advantage na matuto sila ng english as early as possible. I am not being selfish pero siguro kung self sufficient na ang gobyerno natin at kaya ng magbigay ng mga magagandang trabaho sa mga tao, then they can concentrate na sa talagang sariling atin and I hope in my lifetime eh mangyari iyon. Dito sa U.S., when my nephew was born, tagalog kung kausapin namin siya. Even his pediatrician who is caucasian sees nothing wrong with it and suggested its very healthy to keep the culture in him. We just hope it will stay with him as he gets older.
We are here in China teaching English and many countries are hiring Filipinos to teach English if you will use Tagalog as a medium of instructions where will we use the Tagalog language in the global economy?At isa pa yong mga Tagalog words naman natin na ginagamit hango sa Ingles iniiba lang ang spelling.
I think if we want to teach the children English with all the proper parameters of it included, we should use the first language that they know (mother tongue). It is not a matter of translating the terms in science and math into the mother tongue, but teaching science and math through the mother tongue. The scientific and mathematical terms remain as is, the explanation and how it will be taught to the children is the one will use the mother tongue.
The Guinigundo Bill is the bill which proposes the mother tongue as a medium of instruction. I personally think this bill would benefit us all. I think the Gullas initiative has a noble intentions. Like me kung di ko alam ng husto ang Ingles ay di ako makakapasok sa International Organization dito sa Geneva kasi eto ang primary official language ng mga UN Systems dito. Ano ba naman Mareng Wennie, crab mentality na naman yata.
I've been around Asia and Europe and thanks to my English knowledge I can communicate to people where I am "confidently" If the Education department will use Tagalog as a medium of instruction then we can't work oversees, study abroad due to poor English and can't communicate well. We should improve and update our English subject, let's aspire for English excellence.
we can learn better English by using our mother tongue, a lot of researches have proven this. A child who does not know and understand English will not be able to learn it by using English as the medium of instruction. Hence, a decline in learning because the child cannot fully understand what is being taught to him
sus kita ba mga pinoy usahay...pirti gid maayoha mangoreksyon og magbantay sa sayop sa uban para ingnon sa sila ang pinaka labaw...maayo pa ang mga nasod nga nga englis ang sinultihan moakceptar pa og pa paka pakauwawan kun masayop ka sa grammar og ang ubang pinoy ba kaha ambot ring...ato nalang hunahunaon nga naay mga tawo nga swerte og malas s kinabuhi.. bisan p kn ikaw p pinakahawd sa englis,hinuon daghan ka og kapilian pero kun malas ka,bisan unsaon nimo paningkamot.wa gihapon epek.sus mga inday di nata maglalis ky tagalog og englis pareho ra tanan udlon gihapon ato mata.
The problem with most of the replies posted here is either or both:
a) the one who made the reply does not understand what medium of instruction means; or b) the one who made the reply does understand what medium of instruction mean but pretends he does not understand. My dear friends, medium of instruction is the means (in this particular issue it means the language) a new skills is being taught. If you want to learn Spanish, which would you prefer - that the teacher instruct your lesson instantly in Spanish right on day one, or that he will instruct you how to speak Spanish through a language you already know? The issue here is not to master English or not but how to master it more effectively. How would you learn the language if you cannot understand the one who teaches it unto you? This where the mother tongue education comes in. In order to learn English well you have to be instructed on how to speak it in mother tongue. Then when your skill on it is competent enough then you can go to the next level - that is to use English as medium of instruction. Learning mathematics and physics is another issue. Excelling on it is not dependent on what language is being used provided that both the teacher and the student understand the language well. For English to be used as effective medium of instruction in these subjects, the student must have to be fluent in this language first, which means that you are depriving mathematics future geniuses to develop their gifts just because they are poor in learning other languages. Imagine Albert Einstein barred to study mathematics just because he cannot speak English. sus kita ba mga pinoy usahay...pirti gid maayoha mangoreksyon og magbantay sa sayop sa uban para ingnon nga sila ang pnka labaw...maayo pa ang mga nasod nga englis mga sinultihan moakceptar pa og di paka pakauwawan kun masayop ka sa grammar!!!ang ubang pinoy ba kaha ambot lang!!!ato nalang hunahunaon nga naay mga tawo nga swerte og malas s kinabuhi.. bisan p kn ikaw p pinakahawd sa englis,hinuon daghan ka og kapilian pero kun malas ka,bisan unsaon nimo paningkamot.wa gihapon epek. ang importante nga imo englis msabtan bisan daginuton..paka paka tuod og perpekto imo englis pero way nakasabot nimo!!unsaon!sus mga inday di nata maglalis ky perpekto og dili sa englis udlon gihapon ato mata. ayo ayo...
sus kita ba mga pinoy usahay...pirti gid maayoha mangoreksyon og magbantay sa sayop sa uban para ingnon nga sila ang pnka labaw...maayo pa ang mga nasod nga englis mga sinultihan moakceptar pa og di paka pakauwawan kun masayop ka sa grammar!!!ang ubang pinoy ba kaha ambot lang!!!ato nalang hunahunaon nga naay mga tawo nga swerte og malas s kinabuhi.. bisan p kn ikaw p pinakahawd sa englis,hinuon daghan ka og kapilian pero kun malas ka,bisan unsaon nimo paningkamot.wa gihapon epek. ang importante nga imo englis msabtan bisan daginuton..paka paka tuod og perpekto imo englis pero way nakasabot nimo!!unsaon!sus mga inday, mga dodong di nata maglalis ky perpekto og dili sa englis udlon gihapon ato mata. ayo ayo...
Ang kadalasang problema po sa mga sagot dito ay:
a) maaring hindi nauunawaan ng nagpost ng sagot kung ano ang ibig sabihin ng medium of instruction; o b) kaya'y naintindihan kaso nagmamaangmaangan. Kaibigan, ang medium of instruction po ay ang ginagamit (sa isyu pong ito ay ang wika) sa pagtuturo ng bagong kakayahan. Kung nais mo bang matuto ng Espanyol, ano bang gugustuhin mo - ang mag-iEspanyol bang mag-instruct ng aralin ang guro mo sa kasisimula pa lang ng klase, o yung tuturuan ka niyang magsalita ng Espanyol gamit ang wikang naiintindihan mo? Ang isyu po dito ay hindi kung kailangan ba nating matuto ng Ingles o hindi bagkus ay kung paano ba natin ito mas madaling matutunan. Paano mo ba matutunan ang tinuturo sa iyo ng guro kung di mo siya naiintindihan? Dito papasok ang mother tongue education (o pag-aaral gamit ang sarili at nakasanayang wika). Para matutnan ang Ingles kailangan ang ginagamit na wika ng guro sa pagtuturo ay ang wikang nakasanayan mo. At habang lumalaon kung may sapat ka nang kagalingan sa Ingles pwede nang aakyat sa sunod na level - iyon ay ang paggamit ng Ingles bilang medium of instruction. Ang pag-aaral sa math at physics ay iba namang usapin. Ang paggiging magaling nito ay hindi naka depende kung anong wika nag ginagamit basta ba naiintindihang pareho ng guro at mag-aaral ang wikang iyon. Para magamit ang Ingles bilang epektibong medium of instructuion kailangan munang may sapat na kagalingan sa wikang ito ang mag-aaral. Ibig sabihin nito, binabalalakidan mo ang isang may potensyal maging henyo sa math o physics na madevelop ang kanyang talento dahil lang wala siyang talento sa pag-iIngles. Isipin mo na lang ang isang potensyal na Albert Einstein binabalakidan mong matuto ng math. Paki translate nga ng mga magagaling mag English yung sinsabi ni JO...yan na nga ba sinasabi ko eh ..yung mga iba`t ibang dialect natin sa ating bansa di natin maperfect eh yung English pa na antagal ng pinagukulan ng panahon ng ating mga henyong mambabatas para sa kapakanan ng ating mga colonial brothers.
Tuloy mo lang yan JO....hehehe Ang sagad jung apan sa mga tubag diri mao nga:
a) wala man tingali kasabot nang nangpost og tubag kung unsa kanang medium of instruction; o b) kaha nagpakaaron-ingnon wala kahibalo. Mga Bay, ang medium of instruction mao ang gamiton (aning isyuha ang sinultihan) inig tudlo og bag-ong abilidad. Kung gusto ka mokat-on mokinatsila, asa man ang imong ganahan - ang magkukinatsila dayon ang maestro bisan wala pa ka kasabot sa iyang gisulti, o ang atudloan ka niyang magkinatsila gamit ang binisaya nga sinultihan? Dili mao ang kung angay ba makat-on mag-iningles ang isyu ani, ang isyu unsaon pagpasayon pagkat-on sa iningles. Ani dinhi mosulod ang mother tongue education ( o pagkat-on gamit ang kaugalingong sinultihan). Aron makat-on ta moiningles magbinisaya ang maestro. Inig makasugakod ka nang moiningles - nan motikang na sa sunod na nga ang-ang ug pwede nang iningles ang gamitong medium of instruction. Lahing istorya na pud ang pagkat-on og math ug physics. Ang pagsabot aning mga subjecka wala man mag-agad kung usang sinultihana ang gigamit basta parehong makasabot anang sinultihana ang maestro ug ang estudyante. Aron magamit ang iningles isip medium of instruction aning mga subjecka kinahanglan makasabot una kaayo og iningles ang estudyante. Unsaon na lang kadtong mga may purohan genius unta sa math o physics apan hinay intawon sa iningles? Hunahunaa kuno kung ang usa ka Albert Einstein dili atudloan og math tungod lang kay dili kamao moiningles? ang napansin ko lang satin pilipino e takot tayo sa pagkakamali kaya iniiwasan natin ang wikang english. pero kapag nasa bansa ka na kelangan ang english e kahit balubaluktot e pinipilit mo sabihin. malaking tulong ang englsih pra mas lalo tayong maging competitive sa buong mundo.
Madaming taga-Manila ang nagagalit sa bill ni Gullas na taga-Cebu. Di nila alam madaming taga-probinsya ang natutuwa sa bill ni Gullas lalo na ang Cebu.
Ang concern ko, gusto ninyo "mother tongue" ang gagamitin sa pagtuturo. So if taga-Cebu ka, Cebuano. If taga-Bicol ka, Bicolano. Gusto ko yan kasi mas maiintindihan ng mga tao ang pinag-aaralan nila. Ang tanong. Handa ba tayo sa pag-aaral gamit ang "mother-tongue" natin? The official use of the mother tongue as a medium of instruction requires each dialect/language to have the necessary set of books and instructional materials that we need to efficiently learn. Realistically speaking, it is not plausible. So lets proceed and think of another solution. Gamitin natin ang mga major languages nalang sa Pilipinas. Ang tanong ulit, are these major languages fully developed to effectively produce a good book for learning? Lahat ng to babagsak din sa paggagamit ng Tagalog. Kasi most of the materials we have now are in Tagalog if tatangalin mo ang English books. Para sa amin mga hindi nagtatagalog, ang ibig sabihin nito ang guro namin magbibisaya, gamit namin ang Tagalog na libro. Diba parehas lang din yun? Lugi kaming mga tagaprobinsya niyan! Di naman namin nagagamit ang Tagalog sa pang-araw araw ng kalakaran namin. Ang solution ko bilang isang maliit na tao, sana mapakinggan ako. I think this is a win-win solution. Grade 1 to Grade 6 -> Use the mother tongue in teaching all subjects. Dito maganda ang foundation ng learning. Start teaching Filipino and English as as a subject High School to College -> Use English as a medium of instruction. Continue teaching Filipino as a subject. College -> Start teaching the regional language as a minor subject Galeng mo pare. You are one of the few sa blog na ito who came up with a better and perhaps the best analysis and suggestion sa topic.
Your idea is really plausible. Sana mabasa ng mga kinaukulan ito. Siguro dapat sulatan mo si Mareng Winnie and expound on your idea para maintindihan nilang maige. That is the way it was noong grade 1-6 ako. Then english ang medium in high school except the Pilipino subject. English din and medium sa college except the Spanish subject. Sa tutoo lang, I think it worked for us. My english knowledge from high school and college helped me a great deal para maging successful sa career ko. I have been working sa USA since I was 19, and I am glad matatag and english foundation ko when i came here. Saludo ako sa yo, pare. Alam niyo ba? Di niyo ata binasa ang article ni Ms. Winnie. Mas maiging pag-aralan ang English bilang second language at di medium of instruction. Mas madaling matuto sa wikang kinalakhan or kinagisnan. At mas maiging Filipino ang gamitin kaysa English dahil mas laganap ito sa Pilipinas kaysa English. Kung Ilokano ka at pupunta ka ng Cebu ano bang gagamitin mo, English. Noong panahon siguro. Di na yan ang realidad ngayon. Filipino na. Gala ako sa Pilipinas mga 'tol, alam kong sinasabi ko.
Di hamak na mas maunland ang South Korea sa atin pero ano bang medium of instruction nila? English ba? Hinding-hindi. Pero noong mga 1960s ay abante pa tayo sa kanila, pangalawa lang tayo sa Japan (na nag-aaral ng English bilang pangalawang salita). Sa kapipilit nating gamitin ang English bilang medium of instruction, nahuli tayo sa teknolohiya at sa ekonomya. Ang labas natin gaya-gaya lang. Lahat ng mauunlad na bansa sa mundo ay ginagamit ang sari-sarili nilang wika bilang medium of instruction. Bakit di natin gayahin? Kung kulang ang bokabularyo natin, tulad ng sa Math at Science, pwes, manghiram tayo at isama sa bokabularyo natin. Di na kailangang mag-imbento pa ng 'taal' na salitang Pinoy. Kung gamitin mo ang salitang 'square root' di isama natin ito sa ating bokabularyo, tulad ng pag-angkin ng English sa mga salitang French gaya ng 'coup d'etal', 'cafe' at 'restaurant.' Huwag tayong bobo tulad ni George W Bush, na nagsabing wala raw sa French ang salitang 'entrepreneur.' Akala niya English iyon, Sa akala niyo ba saan galing ang salitang iyan? Gagaya ba tayo sa kaniya? Dapat matuto talaga tayo ng English, pero di bilang medium of instruction kundi second/foreign language lang. Galing din ako ng Holland, ang gagaling nilang mag-English kaysa Pinoy, pero Dutch ang gamit sa eskwelahan. Ay naku, basahin niyo nga ang article ni Ms. Winnie at sagutin niyo punto por punto. Ms. Winnie, I may disagree with you on many other things but I guess we agree on this issue. Thanks "Kulangot". I'm glad you're with me. Almost all posters here do write good english. Undoubtedly, Filipinos really have a good command of the english language. However, I'm a little bit sad because not all of us here are on the same page - meaning, some are against this english proposition. But just the same, I fully respect everyone's opinion. Allow me to share something here. I rememberered, when I was in elementary school (public) until highschool (private), (the medium of instruction then was English. English was spoken inside and outside the class (except Pilipino subject). The teachers (esp. my english teacher) would fine us if we were caught not conversing in English. Our reaction? Well, we thought it was fun doing it. There were no feeling of anger whatsoever (nor fears) towards our teachers. The school management approved it. This method was enforced for our own good and indeed motivated us...I have no regrets. Practice makes perfect...so they say. Learning English brought us no impairment. It never did impair my tagalog. I'm glad that I'm bi-lingual so can you.
Sa Mga Bisaya,
Mas maayo gyud ang makahibalo moestorya ug English. Kay lisod kaayo kung naay turista labi na nga ang Kabisayaan ay usa ka paboritong lugar sa mga turista. Basin unya mapareha ta sa estorya nga pareha niini; Usa ka Amerikano ang mibisita sa Bisayas, unya nakakita sya ug gwapang babaye; Amerikano : Hi young lady? Babaye : (wala motubag, mederetso ug hayang) Amerikano : (nakurat sa nahitabo) What happen! Babaye : (mitubag dayon) Ah way hapin hapin. Ang pagtuon ug paggamit sa inestoryahang English dako kaayo ug ikatabang sa atong adlaw adlaw nga panginabuhi ilabi na nga libre na ang atong lugar sa bisan kinsa nga mga nagkalain laing klase sa tawo nga mosulod ug mogawas sa atong nasud. Thanks "Kulangot". I'm glad you're with me. Almost all posters here do write good english. Undoubtedly, Filipinos really have a good command of the english language. However, I'm a little bit sad because not all of us here are on the same page - meaning, some are against this english proposition. But just the same, I fully respect everyone's opinion. Allow me to share something here. I rememberered, when I was in elementary school (public) until highschool (private), (the medium of instruction then was English. English was spoken inside and outside the class (except Pilipino subject). The teachers (esp. my english teacher) would fine us if we were caught not conversing in English. Our reaction? Well, we thought it was fun doing it. There were no feeling of anger whatsoever (nor fears) towards our teachers. The school management approved it. This method was enforced for our own good and indeed motivated us. I have no regrets. Practice makes perfect...so they say. Learning English brought us no impairment. It never did impair my tagalog. I'm glad that I'm bi-lingual so can you.
puro comment and suggestions pinoy na pinoy ang approach pero walang sumusunod
Hindi ba ganun tayong mga pinoy? Ang daming batas wala namang sumusunod sa batas. Puro dakdak sa senado pero wala din. Kaya eto...ang daming comments and suggestions pero binabasa kaya ni Mareng Winnie ang mga comments natin? Maybe...maybe not. Parang "outlet" na lang natin to kaya relax ka lang, Bok.
Most Filipinos when they arrived in a real English-speaking country, they usually have a hard time understanding the locals, lets say in Australia. What we need to do is to intensify English comprehension. We may still be arguing about whether to use Filipino or English as our medium of instruction but let us think that the English language gave us Filipinos the edge to be employed and seek better opportunities abroad that our mother country can't give.
Japan is an example of a country that doesn't use English but continue to be very progressive, but we as Filipinos do not have the work ethics and professional mind-set as the Japanese. It may be hard to accept but it is a reality that what hampers our development are the various components of our society that are ineffective and continue to drag our mindset 100 years behind. English is the world's medium of instruction surpassing French, Spanish and German thus it is important for Filipinos to improve the way we use it. Being bilingual or multilingual is still an edge. It costs thousands of dollars for non-English speakers to learn the language when we do not necessarily have to spend to learn............. whoever we are... whatever native language we are using... using systematic approach... we should decide based on the conducted studies and research! From the article wrote by winnie, it is very clear that Gullan Bill will make our worse problem worst...
Everyone must do something…not only the schools.
Before English movies aired in TVs as English…kaya nga ako noon may katabi pang dictionary kapag may hindi ako naintindihan pero ngayon lahat translated in Tagalog. Marami sa mga Pinoy lalo na sa mga kabataan ngayon mahilig manood ng TV at dahil hindi naman lahat ng napapanood ay gawang pinoy, bakit hindi hayaang English language ang English movies. I believe this will be one way of developing our English through listening and observing as well as in writing (because what you have constructed in mind will be the same as when you put it in writing). I think as a compromise DepEd and CHED should implement the following in the elementary, high school, college levels respectively.
In teaching Math, Science and Social Science courses, teachers should use what the students will understand most - be it English, Tagalog, Ilocano, Taglish etc. To respond to the need for competence in English, there should be the equivalent of 2 (TWO) English subjects in the elementary level beginning Grade 2. First, implement a course in "Language" which should hone the writing skills of kids and knowledge in grammar. Secondly, a "Reading" course should be added which will focus in improving reading skills, oral communication, among others. Finally, a seventh grade level should be added in elementary schools. In high schools, the time for English may be reduced to the equivalent of 1 or 1.5 subjects. Filipino and Social Science should be integrated at this level. The extra time as a result of these should be spent on Mathematics and Science courses. Finally, in college, CHED should require a 6 units of English. 3 on Oral Communications and 3 on University Writing / research paper writing. If you want to compete with the americans, then go to america to finish your studies. It is normal that we need to upgrade our skills and education if we want to be at the top positions in the US
The situation can be compared to our nation, If you are a graduate from the province you need to upgrade also your education to compete with the applicants coming from UP or Ateneo Stop arguing about semantics. Kaya tayo magaaral ng English para makapagusap tayo ng maayos(madami naman paraan). Kaya gumugulo ang mundo kasi hindi nagkakaintindihan ang mga tao. (kung lahat may integridad di na kailangan ang batas)
To those who says na kaya tayo hindi umuunlad kasi hindi mother tongue and medium of instruction!!!
Sa loob ng mahabang panahon simula ng ma implement ito mula sa panahon ni dating Pangulong Cory. Ang tanong ngayon ay UMUNLAD BA TAYO????? Sagot sa malaking problemang ito.... panukala ko magkanya-kanyang diskarte na lang tayo. Sa mga gustong gumamit ng english mag-aral sa eskuwelahang english ang medium of instruction. i.e. british school, international school etc. Sa mga gustong Pilipino....dun kayo mag enrol sa Makabayan Elementary school...bahala na kayong hanapin ang address at hindi ko alam. Bawat tao may sariling paniniwala at plano sa buhay at kelangan natin irespeto. Kung English ang gusto eh di mag-usap kayo gamit ang wikang english eh kung yung kabila ayaw ng english eh di mag tagalog ka. Walang pilitan kasi magulo! Magtayo ng Tagalog school sa mga gustong mother tongue and medium at English School sa gustong matuto ng English. TO: Winnie Monsod & Posters
Thought you guys would like to read this article relating the current topic which was written way back in 2006. Almost three (3) years have gone by and TODAY, the matter is still unresolved. Please read on.... --------------------------------------- Reversing the decline The Philippine Star 01/26/2006 Foreign investors have been complaining about it, and yesterday local businessmen agreed with the observation that Filipinos are losing their proficiency in English. This week the Department of Labor and Employment suggested that English be restored as the medium of instruction in the country’s schools, pointing out that Filipinos are losing job opportunities because of eriorating English proficiency. Several years ago, in an effort to develop a national language, public schools stopped using English as a medium of instruction. The result has been disastrous, both for English proficiency and the promotion of a national language. In many non-Tagalog-speaking regions, local dialects are being used as the medium of instruction rather than Filipino, the national language that is largely based on Tagalog. Compounding the problem is the widespread use of Taglish in broadcasting and entertainment. The result is a population with no proficiency in either English or Filipino. And the result is a slide in the nation’s global competitiveness. The development cannot come at a worse time, when English has become the lingua franca of international business and the Information Age. The consequences can be embarrassing, as when bad English helped lead cyber sleuths to Filipino hacker Onel de Guzman, who unleashed the "I love you" virus that affected computers around the world including those in US security agencies. The consequences also include the loss of job opportunities. Labor officials point out that the country can corner a bigger chunk of the call center market if Filipinos have a better grasp of English. Foreign investors are also increasingly bringing their money to other countries whose workers are rapidly improving their English proficiency. Even if English is restored as a medium of instruction alongside Filipino, a major problem is the lack of teachers qualified to teach English. Over the years many of the country’s teachers have left for jobs overseas, a number of them teaching English even in the United States. The country will have to develop a new pool of English teachers. Reversing the decline in English proficiency is going to take time and a lot of effort, but the country has no choice. If we fail to act soon, we may never catch up with the rest of the world. This has nothing to do with colonial mentality or lack of nationalism. This is all about national survival in a highly competitive global environment. Please kindly sir or madam bring back Bangued Abra to be Region 1 again please now:
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Throughout my career here in Canada I am grateful for my elementary education. I graduated from an obscure school in Bukidnon, the Kalasungay Farm School. Grades 1 -2 our instructions were in Cebuano then Grades 3 to 6 in english. It must have worked for me. I graduated in the 60's and my university in the 70's. That system was good.
Throughout my career here in Canada I am grateful to my elementary education. I graduated from an obscure school in Bukidnon, the Kalasungay Farm School. Grades 1 -2 our instructions were in Cebuano then Grades 3 to 6 in english. It must have worked for me. I graduated in the 60's and my university in the 70's. That system was good.
To be able to speak as many languages as you can would be considered a "plus" especially when he or she was about to apply for a job that he or she was considering.
A case in point would be a typical filipino applying for some technical job abroad that would require him or her to take exams both written and verbal. Wouldn't it be something if he or she had only learned local languages and or dialects that we have in the philippines. Now, who are we to blame in a case like this? do we blame the teacher who has no clue whatsoever how to teach english to his or her students or we blame the educational system that we have in the philippines. This would be like closing the barn when horses have already left. Indeed, we have to drive the thought to the kids that to know as much langauages in the philippines is a good thing, to know and speak the languages that you grew up with is a good thing. But, perhaps, educators should also remind them that to keep such languages at hand would also be "preserving" the very culture that we grew up with, such as, cebuanos, ilocanos, capangpangan etc etc. This is not about us, this is about kids growing up to maintain the balance between keeping the philippine cultures and the way to act in the "global competitiveness". And, unfortunately, one way of attaining that is to adjust yourself to the changes of the times, like, learning how to communicate in what was becoming the universal language in the world. If we don't adjust to this call, we may end up at the tail end of just about every thing bad. The tagalogs have their own unique culture and so are those other people in different parts of the country. We just have to learn to co exist between our own culture and beyond and maybe, acknowledge the fact that we have to learn some more. Just a thought. Ang pinag-uusapan dito.....DAPAT BANG GAMITIN ANG MOTHER TONGUE O ENGLISH SA PAGTUTURO SA PILIPINAS PARA MAGING GLOBALLY COMPETITIVE ANG MGA PINOY.
SO ANONG SAGOT MO? ANG HABA NG SINULAT MO PERO NAKAKALITO NAMAN ANG MENSAHE MO. ANG LABO MO TALAGA. JUST A THOUGHT. KUNG ANO ANONG THOUGHT ANG SINULAT MO KAYA YOU DID NOT MAKE SENSE AT ALL. KISS = KEEP IT SIMPLE STUPID. Dapat yung Mother Tongue approach ang gamiting medium of instruction sa Pilipinas.
Dapat nating pahalagahan ang mga resulta ng pag-aaral tungkol dito as delineated by Mareng Winnie and several Pilipino scholars. Pag english daw ang ginamit na medium of instruction eh nagiging impediment lang yung english sa progress ng student toward learning whatever subject it is. Simply put nga naman...kailangan pang i-process ng brain from english to tagalog(for example)bago ma-solve ang isang algebra or math problem. I agree dahil that is exactly what happened to me when I was much younger and I had to read english, solve math or algebra in english, etc. Mas madali siguro akong natuto ng mga subjects na yun kong Tagalog was the medium of instruction nung nasa high school and college ako. Likewise, mas effective siguro ang mga teachers ko noon sa pagtuturo ng mga subjects had they used Tagalog as the medium of instruction. They were also challenged by english like we were. I had difficulty communicating in english pag amerikano ang kausap ko dahil may brain had to translate from tagalog to english bago lumabas ang words sa bibig ko. This was due to lack of practice. Medyo improved na ngayon dahil sa frequency ng paggamit ng english language. Tulad nga ng mga sinulat ng ilan dito, Korea, Japan, and China are better off than the Philippines not because they speak english well. They don't use english as the medium of instruction in their classrooms. This alone settles the argument if we call it that. Kung gusto naman ng government to help those future OFWs to be more globally competitive, then the government must engage the experts to come up with a viable solution to address the way the schools teach the English language. Perhaps the schools should offer more english subjects(optional)to those who are aspiring to be an OFW someday. Dapat sigurong i-revise nila ang curriculum/curricula to reflect changes and advancement to specific degrees and crafts they teach. For example, welding - Hi-tech na ngayon ang welding industry. Kung ang itinuturo sa atin eh obsolete na, then hindi globally competititve ang pinoy. Engineering - Kung hindi babaguhin ng Mapua, UP, etc. ang itinuturo nila to adapt to modern technologies eh hindi magiging globally competitive ang mga pinoy. Yung mga engineers tuloy na graduate sa Pilipinas eh kumukuha pa ng mga additional subjects sa USA to keep up and qualify sa mga positions that they are applying for. This only means na hindi sila prepared dahil yung pinanggalingan nilang UP, Mapua, etc. eh wala nung subjects na yun or wala nung lab facility na yun. Madami tuloy engineering graduates sa atin na tumatanggap ng mga positions na hindi angkop sa degree nila. Electrical engineer na nagtatrabaho as an electrician. This is sad. Yung amerikano sa technical school lang nag-graduate tapos boss pa ng engineer na pinoy. Three points. Mother tongue as medium of instruction is one. The quality of instruction and quantity of English being taught. More practice. The quality of instruction when it comes to the degree or technology being taught, regardless of the medium of instruction. Salamat po sa inyong lahat. I almost fall off the chair when i saw this entry. Well folks, here is a living proof that man can actually teach a DOG to use a computer! congratulations to all who have made this possible! let me know if this experiment will go any further! i will donate money into this.
How about an experiment that will make this dog "process" information in his box jelly fish brain a lot faster than a flying fish. Sorry erap i just couldn't resist. Never a thought on this one! hhmmmppp beam me up scotty!
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"I almost fall off the chair when i saw this entry."
I almost FELL off the chair ...ang tama tanga! Here is the clue..phuck face...you wrote ".....when i saw this entry." You wrote a verb in the present tense together with a verb in the past tense...in the same sentence, you phuck face! And you promote english as medium of instruction? Ikaw ang classic example ng salitang OXYMORON. Go ahead look it up, junior because I am certain that you have no clue what it means. It means Alundio. Ha, ha, ha. Like what I wrote before, you are confused. You have no idea if you are coming or going. You have no idea if it is today or yesterday, you dim wit. Kung hindi mo kaya ang tagalog eh isulat mo na lang sa kung anong dialect ang alam mo. 'Wag lang english dahil nagkakalat ka lang. You must be phucking with the coffee maker or beating your weenie in the john when english was being taught in your class you dum phuck! Bring it on, junior. Masarap ka namang punching bag eh. Marami ka pang kakaining bigas rookie.
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by the way, si ERAP ulit ito. He, he, he.
"i had difficulty communicating in english pag amerikano ang kausap ko dahil may brain had to translate from tagalog to english bago lumabas and words sa bibig ko"
You don't say! this is the reason why educators have to teach those kids early in life to speak english. Seems like my coffee maker is a lot more intelligent than you, it could respond to commands in six languages. I hate to picture my self actually talking to you in person, before you could respond to a simple commands like "sit" "crawl" and "roll over", you will do the opposite. I knew all along that you are a dog, right! come on now, what other circus tricks can you do for me? "bago lumabas ang words sa bibig ko"? A word of advice, if you could really hold on to a "language translator" with your paws, perhaps, you would be able to communicate in english as opposed to your little brain working so hard. That is, if you actually have them. I've heard that eating those little "pandesal" will make you intelligent! Is it true? Now, by this time, you probably realized that taking a banter with me is not gonna work. Frankly, you are the kind of person that most filipinos abroad would totally dismiss themselves from. But then again, you are a dog. I am now finished with my business in the john, and when i command "flush", i would imagined that you are going down with it. Nice talking to you, i mean, nice "barking with you". You are a total disgrace to the filipino culture.
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I didn't write that when my brain translates from Tagalog to english...it takes a couple of seconds. For you it probably takes forever. dum phuck. Intentionally misspelled so I wont offend other people kasi para sa iyo ito.
"I would imagined" the correct way to say this is " I would imagine" you dum phuck!!! "I would have imagined" is the other way, you dum phuck!!! You are absolutely correct, you moron. Your coffee maker is a lot smarter than you are. I bet you can't even manage your way out of a paper bag , ha? Trying hard ka talaga bulol ka naman. You are the perfect example. You typify ang sinasabi ng iba sa blog na to na english ng english bulol naman. You definitely have no ability to discern what makes sense so you have to resort to cliches that don't make a rat's ass quiver. When you start making $250,000.00 a year..then you may qualify to be in my league, junior. Until then, you can continue to suck your thumb and wish upon the stars. Just a thought. Ha, ha, ha!!!
#140.2.2.1.1
Anonymous
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2009-03-09 12:38
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By the way...I am ERAP, alundio, baby.
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ERAP
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2009-03-09 12:56
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"i had difficulty communicating in english pag amerikano ang kausap ko dahil may brain had to translate from tagalog to english bago lumabas and words sa bibig ko"
You don't say! this is the reason why educators have to teach those kids early in life to speak english. Palpak ka talaga. " I had difficulty...." Past tense bulol!!! This mean I don't have that difficulty ngayon you dum phuck. Galing mo talaga sa english. Seems like my coffee maker is a lot more intelligent than you, it could respond to commands in six languages. I hate to picture my self actually talking to you in person, before you could respond to a simple commands like "sit" "crawl" and "roll over", you will do the opposite. I knew all along that you are a dog, right! come on now, what other circus tricks can you do for me? "bago lumabas ang words sa bibig ko"? A word of advice, if you could really hold on to a "language translator" with your paws, perhaps, you would be able to communicate in english as opposed to your little brain working so hard. That is, if you actually have them. I've heard that eating those little "pandesal" will make you intelligent! Is it true? Now, by this time, you probably realized that taking a banter with me is not gonna work. Frankly, you are the kind of person that most filipinos abroad would totally dismiss themselves from. But then again, you are a dog. I am now finished with my business in the john, and when i command "flush", i would imagined that you are going down with it. Nice talking to you, i mean, nice "barking with you". You are a total disgrace to the filipino culture. Ganun ba? " Most filipinos abroad would totally dismiss themselves from" I happen to own a business and I employ 15 filipinos so mali yata ang hula mo bulol. 12 whites, 7 african americans and 5 latinos together with those 15 filipinos happen to be working for me with respect kasi I can spot a bulol a thousand miles away. I am referring to none other than Alundio Aguilar, whose talents are to turn on a coffee maker, flush the commode, and spend the whole day in the john and reminisce about the days when he was trying to learn english. In the end...look what happened. Bulol pa rin sa english. Just a thought, you phuck face. Misspelled AGAIN TO PROTECT THE INNOCENT.
#140.2.2.2.1
Alundio Aguilar
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2009-03-09 21:52
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You're funny! just so you know, my "mutt" is the one responding to your blogs here.
Bad boy he is, grrrrr, sit boy, sit! Told him, that i've found one in the phils who knows how to use a computer, he wouldn't believe me. Don't be bashful now, and quit licking your ass in public erap!
#140.2.2.2.2
Alundio Aguilar
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2009-03-09 22:00
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you poor dog, you must have been dropped by your mom on the floor so many times when you're little.
It jarred your brain so much that you couldn't even tell a donkey's ass from a dog. now, bark for me dog, bark and roll over! up your ass erap!
#140.2.2.2.3
Alundio Aguilar
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2009-03-09 22:15
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meal time is twelve in your place, right? that means, you're in pavillion five at the national mental hospital in mandaluyong. shouldn't it be a dog pound? rather than a hospital?
careful when they tell you its time to wear a shirt! make sure they don't put those white shirt on you with extra long sleeves.
#140.2.2.2.3.1
ERAP
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2009-03-10 01:23
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You're funny! just so you know, my "mutt" is the one responding to your blogs here.
Bad boy he is, grrrrr, sit boy, sit! Told him, that i've found one in the phils who knows how to use a computer, he wouldn't believe me. Don't be bashful now, and quit licking your ass in public erap! #140.2.2.2.2 Alundio Aguilar on 2009-03-09 22:00 (Reply) you poor dog, you must have been dropped by your mom on the floor so many times when you're little. It jarred your brain so much that you couldn't even tell a donkey's ass from a dog. now, bark for me dog, bark and roll over! up your ass erap! #140.2.2.2.3 Alundio Aguilar on 2009-03-09 22:15 (Reply) meal time is twelve in your place, right? that means, you're in pavillion five at the national mental hospital in mandaluyong. shouldn't it be a dog pound? rather than a hospital? careful when they tell you its time to wear a shirt! make sure they don't put those white shirt on you with extra long sleeves. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ - Is this all you can do? ran out of gas? Ranting and raving like a mad dog? I'd rather hire a mexican who doesn't know english than someone like you who thinks he knows english. Like I said, I can spot nit wits a thousand miles away. - You are lucky I treat you like a toy. Come to think of it...you are like one. You make sounds but you have no idea what is happening around you. You think you know english but you are all over the map. I bet you my bottom dollar, my poodle has a higher IQ than Alundio. My poodle responds intelligently to human beings. On the other hand, you confuse every one who reads your blog. Classic the blind leading the blind. Looks like you wasted your parents' money when they sent you to school. I wont be surprised if they disowned you a long time ago. I would do that also. He, he, he. Did you look up OXYMORON yet? Look it up under Alundio. Or perhaps, you do not have enough brain cells to muster to be able to do a simple task like that. That figures. Tsk, tsk, tsk, down boy, down. Don't fret. You should be old enough to handle the truth. The truth being that you are a BIG Fuzz Ball who thinks he knows english enough to have the gonads to let the whole world know how stupid he is. Keep sucking on your thumbs boy. Someday you will come down to mother earth and realize what you are missing and say DUH!!!! Just a thought.
#140.2.2.2.3.1.1
Anonymous
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2009-03-10 04:29
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get a job! you are nothing but a gumshoe and a bad boil in the ass! you should know that. By the way, how is the "witness protection" program coming along erap?
not even your mother would accept you as a human being! but then again, every mother dog has its own prerogative. just don't ever lick your own ass in public! cause that is considered uncool. i really don't know what you're saying here, but, every time i see a name called erap, reminds me of the real erap who is dumb, stupid, illiterate, alcoholic, and all of the above. is this the reason why you decided to have a name like him? well, you are not too far from him i guess. good choice! however, he is human, you're a dog! who licks his ass in public all the time. tell me what part of the word A-S-S don't you understand?
#140.2.2.2.3.1.1.1
ERAP
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2009-03-10 09:48
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Come on, now junior. I know you voted for ERAP the ex-president. You are his perfect type of voter. Less IQ is a big plus. This explains why your so called english has less to be desired.
Did you look up OXYMORON yet? Come on, my poodle is laughing at you now. He was able to see it under ALUNDIO. Don't worry, ERAP may seek the presidency again so you'll have another chance to screw things up...again. Ha, ha, ha. You are fully qualified to be his speech writer. Ha, ha, ha. So junior, next time you think of posting another mind boggling non-sense of a blog...have a 3 year old proof read it first. You have a better chance of impressing the readers if you have it checked by a 3 year old. OK? You forgot to realize that people reading this blog has more IQ hence they do not deserve the insulting pieces and sad representations of your questionable intellect....or lack thereof. Your inability to exchange intelligent information is nothing more than a subterfuge of an appeal for attention by someone who seems to be on the verge of losing self respect like what you purport to be. Just a thought. Ha, ha, ha!
#140.2.2.2.3.1.1.1.1
Alundio Aguilar
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2009-03-10 22:33
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i just saw these! subterfuge? purport? speak english will you! and let go of those us magazines and an english dictionary on your hand! shame on you. ha ha ha ha
#140.2.2.2.3.1.1.2
Alundio Aguilar
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2009-03-10 22:16
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i like that! you even copied word for word the things that i typed here. did you ever hear the term "pasting"? i guess not. but anyways, i'm kind of flabbergasted to see this to say the least.
you should know this by now, not unless, your master was kind of reluctant to teach you. even you signing off with "just a thought" makes me happy.you like that huh? anyways, my washer is about to stop, and i have to put them in the dryer.talk to you soon erap. or should i say bark, bark, bark! by the way, what kind of dog food would you prefer, something more robust and yet sophisticated to your palate? i could send them to you in no time. be aware though, this is not for human consumption. however, i've seen a lot of pinoys eat this when i was there. like spreading this stuff on "pandesal". i think, they have totally mistaken this to "liver spread". are they really that good? only you should know. just a thought. (this folks by the way comes from the real originator of those words) and not from just a low lying animal. grrrrr,grrrrr. i am having fun indeed! not a lot of times that i could go down to their level! cause frankly, i would be terribly embarrass by this. i just sort of like the idea of pretending that i was a hopeless case of being a "nut case" like erap. seriously folks, i got to put my clothes in the dryer. talk to you soon erap! wag your tail for me! that's my boy! tsup! tsup! tsup! on your nose boy. just a thought
#140.2.2.2.3.1.1.2.1
ERAP
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2009-03-11 01:47
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"anyways, my washer is about to stop, and i have to put them in the dryer."
- Put what in the dryer? There you go again with your 5 centavo english. Do you honestly think you made sense in this sentence? "talk to you soon erap. or should i say bark, bark, bark! by the way, what kind of dog food would you prefer, something more robust..." - There you are again trying so hard to impress the readers. I wouldn't use Robust if I were you. On the other hand, I would know what word to use and definitely not Robust. Does not make sense as usual. The only thing that makes sense is that anything you write will never ever make sense. Ha, ha, ha. "however, i've seen a lot of pinoys eat this when i was there." - where is there? And who are you to look down on Pinoys? Typical fly on a carabao's back. Don't bother trying to understand that one. You may have a nose bleed. Ha, ha, ha. "just a thought. (this folks by the way comes from the real originator of those words) and not from just a low lying animal. grrrrr,grrrrr." - You should have written ...Just a STUPID thought so the readers would understand why they just read something so STUPID. "i am having fun indeed! not a lot of times that i could go down to their level! cause frankly, i would be terribly embarrass by this." - Here you go again. The correct way to write it is......" I would be terribly embarrassed by this. As you can see, you are utterly incapable of constructing a simple english sentence. How can you expect the readers to put creedence to anything you post? Nose bleeding? Sorry. How many times have I pointed out so many mistakes in your grammar? Let me re-phraze that to avoid nose bleeds. Ha, ha, ha. How can you expect the readers to see it your way, and believe you when you lose credibility because of numerous mistakes in your grammar, sentence construction and choice of words? Remember my other post when I wrote the blind leading the blind? I was referring to Alundio trying to tell the readers that english is the way to go, when Alundio himself proved it to the rest of the world what happens when improper teaching and/or teaching wrong english are not addressed. Ok, let's prevent nose bleed again. sorry. Alundio is the perfect personification of what happens when wrong educational program/system is implemented. Another way to prevent nose bleed. Alundio is the manifestation of a bad idea and a bad system. I hope that helps. If not.. let me try it this way. You are so dumb so stop recommending stupid and dumb ideas.! Garbage in garbage out. Have you heard that before, dumb phuck?(intentionally misspelled to protect the innocent but not Alundio.) What am I talking about? What do I expect from a 5 centavo english education. Duh!!! Stupid is what Stupid does. Forrest Gump has more brain cells than you, Alundio. Look at him, he became rich and won an Oscar. Not just a STUPID thought., Ha, ha, ha.
#140.2.2.2.3.1.1.2.1.1
Alundio Aguilar
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2009-03-11 10:07
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five centavo english? i'm pretty sure you are from the "boondocks". no wonder i couldn't understand any words you're saying. so, how does it taste like when you put your thumb in your ass and lick it? yuuuckk! i couldn't imagine that my self. i'm telling you! don't ever do that in public! you are a total disgrace to the filipino culture.
i noticed that you are always here. proved me right again that you don't have a job at all. feel sorry for you, you old bastard! spending so much "pesos" in the internet cafe. or perhaps you own that your self. ha ha ha just a thought P.S. the only time i could get a hold of a pc is whenever i feel like dumpping something in the john that totally resemble your face. oh yes of course, there is also a pc in the john. just so you know. bye bye erap. how about them "liver spread" huh? what do you think? did you really try them? bet you did already!
#140.2.2.2.3.1.1.2.1.1.1
ERSAP
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2009-03-11 11:06
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Always here?
If you are making $250, 000.00 a year, you can afford several lap tops and roving WIFI monthly fee. This means I can get online anywhere I am. I also have all the time in the world because I own the business. I will be in Las Vegas this weekend to donate a couple of thousand dollars to America's ailing economy. I go to Vegas, New York, the Bahamas, Acapulco, Europe and I get online once in awhile to have fun with nit wits like you. Each time I come close into believing that Pinoys are smarter than other races...I encounter a flake like you. A retard who thinks he knows english, and then fizzle at a slight sign of challenge. At least ERAP the ex- prez never projected an image that he is good in english and that he speaks english very well. Unlike Alundio who makes suggestions even he doesn't comprehend because it doesn't make sense. The blind trying to lead the blind. Bottom line...if you think your posts are worthy of anyone's time, then you are in your own sorry world. The only reason why I am trading barbs with you is because I am watching movies each time I post a reply to your low level exchange. I write a post to this blog each time I take a break in playing online poker, especially if I am losing money. Replying to your non-sense during commercial breaks while I watch TV. Replying to your stupid posts while I play poker online. Of course, I don't do it in the john because you are not worthy enough to savor the sweet pungent aroma of my wordly excrement. Sorry, nose bleed again? Feces? Nose bleed? I gave you all the chances in the world to elevate your argument to a level worthy of my continued interest...but you failed royally to rise to the occasion. Stupid is what stupid does and you definitelly did it over and over again. This only means one thing. Once stupid always stupid. Look up Stupid under synonym and you will find ................................... A L U N D I O. Ha, ha, ha!
#140.2.2.2.3.1.1.2.1.1.1.1
AA
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2009-03-12 02:01
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I don't read anything coming from you! however, no matter what it is you're trying to say, you're still a "despicable" old bastard. licking your finger with shit in it! yuuuckk! you need a shrink!
who asked you anyway!
#140.2.2.2.3.1.1.2.1.1.1.2
AA
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2009-03-12 02:19
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i noticed you're not using erap anymore ha ha ha ha, you just realized that people would take you as really "extremely stupid" which is pretty much close to being called an "idiot"!just like you mentor, erap (formerly called the president)i don't know about you people, but, there is something about this dog that comes to me as very "repulsive" not to mention extremely pathetic. eat shit! you old bastard. sooner or later you'll be pushing daisies.uhhh humm
this is so boring!that comes to mind, if you're really that old, does that mean you look like the hunchback of notredame?. better be ugly than being seen in public licking your ass! bye quasimodo! must've been hard doing it, cause to tell you frankly, i just can't do it, how do you do that though ha ha ha. but then again you're a dog. Effective ang paggamit ng English as a medium of teaching dito sa Pilipinas ay napapanahon especially now that the world is already becoming a "global village". Pero ang paggamit ng mother tongue as the medium of teaching further enhances iyong kakayanan natin na mag-ingles. According to a study (Pls refer ung study sa taas). So it's effective using ung mother tongue mo.
Another issuue ay iyong quality ng teachers natin. there's a lack sa training ng teachers especially sa public school. Dahil na din sa kakulangan ng pondo kaya nangyayayari yang ganyan. You just showed what's causing our people to be poor speakers of both languages - TAGLISH.
Try a little harder to speak either one correctly , if not fluently. Taglish is just a cover for the inadequacies we have as a society . Its not helpful at all. Taglish as a language of the elite ? give me a break ! Its more a medium for the undereducated. Karamihan ng tao sa mundo , anuman ang katayuan sa buhay ay maaaring matuto ng tamang pananalita. Kung ipipilit niyo ang Taglish dahil nauuso , palagay ko hindi tayo makakalayo. Nagiging bahagi na kultura yan . Sana ay mabago pa. in order for the generation to learn fast and effective there should be a proper school that can accommodates the growing numbers of school childrens and there must be enough supply of a highly trained proffessionals teachers and school principals.DEPED should provides adequate proper textbooks for all school SUBJECTS either it is using tagalog or english languages kasi kung mali ang turo,syimpre mali din ang matutunan ng mga mag-aaral.
Mas mainam kung maging dalubhasa sa english at tagalog para kahit hindi na gamitin ang mother tongue(bicol,ilocano,cebuano,capangpangan,atbp.)walang problema ang mga pilipino magkakaintindihan pa rin basta alam ng bawat isa ang tagalog at english. Para sa akin pinakamainam na gamitin ang ET(English,Tagalog)english to be globally competive and tagalog para magkaintindihan ang masang pilipino. Kung english lang paano ang mga kababayan mahina sa english,gaya ng mga no read,no write alam lang ang tagalog dahil yan palagi naririnig sa radyo at telebisyon. Taglish is the modern languages of filipino generation today because of our country using tagalog as national languages and english being second languages. If Philippines abolished tagalog or pilipino as national or official language and used english as our national and official languages we are no longer a country that has its own local languages and the used of other languages (bicol,ilocano,visaya etc)no longer needed.We are going to be part of english speaking country like USA,Canada,UK,Ireland,Scothland,Netherland,Australia but the rest of the filipinos that didn´t went to school will remain speaking using their native tongue...in that matter any foreigners would notice who among the filipinos went to school to learn english. Dito sa non-english speaking country,only the people who can communicate in english are those who went to school to learn english,those natives ones plainly spoke their native or mother tongue. I don´t think Philippines would be english speaking country if many of its people speak comfortably in their native tongue than in (tagalog as official language and english as second language) Isa sa mga dahilan kung bakit watak-watak ang pilipino(iba-iba ang kaisipan)dahil na rin sa pagiging tribo-tribo ng mamamayan.Dahil halos bawat probinsya ay may kanya-kanyang lengguwahe. Ginawang pambansang wika ang tagalog pero,malaya pa rin gamitin ng sinuman ang kanilang lengguwaheng kinamulatan,resulta iba´t-ibang lengguwahe mayroon ang pinas. Ang USA iba´t-ibang bansa ang nagmigrate doon pero sinuman sa kanila ay kailangan gamitin ang english sa pakikipag-usap sa publiko pero ang pilipino,kung ano ang gusto nilang gamitin na salita iyon ang kanilang gagamitin.Wala tayong respeto sa atin itinalagang maging opisyal o wikang pambansa,kung kaya nagiging traydor tayo sa ating sariling bansa.Kaya naman karamihan ng mga kurap na politiko sa halip na sa sariling bansa gamitin ang pera sa ibang-bansa nila dinadala at tuloy ibang-bansa ang nakikinabang sa halip na pilipino ang mabigyan ng sapat na trabaho ay ibang bansa ang binigyan ng trabaho.Resulta many jobless filipinos in their home country and many jobs opportunities overseas. Why middle east keep hiring OFWs because all monies of the world going to their banks by simply buying their oils product that was natures produce.While filipinos,chinese,bombays,muslims keeps making babies and produceless food there will be more hungry and crimes,illiterate and useless individuals. Should all the filipinos required to speak english,those who can´t should be jailed,only then the majority would strive hard to learn english. Kung akong maging presidente ng pinas ang hindi marunong ng english ipakukulong ng five months hanggang sa matuto ng english at kung hindi pa rin matuto with-in five months in jail itapon na lang sa dagat at ipakain sa mga pating o kaya sa mga alagang buwaya...biro lang po. Teach our students both English and Pilipino.Intensify exercises that will internalize the use of proper language at the right time and place.
The point here is- Mother tongue VS English as a medium of Class Instruction.
I would say if we based our ideas from a limited outcome of what happened in the previous years with regards to students’ achievements, then we better start asking a reasonable sample size of people who had been in a program of both and look closely the pattern they made into their lives to justify that. But to be honest, I don't agree with the fact that teachers should use their mother tongue in the class instruction. Let's put it this way, we teachers are from different ethnicity and for sure, we got our own language. So how does it help to students if you are teaching in a language to a group of students that even you are not that fluent to their language as well? Remember, we have Filipino as our national language to have a standard language so we will understand each other. For people in Visayas and Mindanao, I doubt that they would prefer to use Filipino than English. This is one part of the issue. When a Bisaya tries to speak Tagalog to people in the north who uses it, they tend to laugh. The reason is that the order of the grammar of both languages is different, reverse in some senses. Whereas, if we use the standard American English (which is actually a bit different of British English) as a medium of instruction, we will come to the point of equilibrium. Let’s not forget the fact that the main thing we are advanced than any other Asian countries is that we can speak English better than them. How do we learn it? Ask yourself. When I was in high school, I got to learn the words in English based on the understanding how it is being used in the textbook. We don’t have bilingual dictionaries. As you have known, for Filipino subject, we even borrowed words from English. For people who speak mostly the southern and central dialects, it’s far better. You know why? It’s very close to their language than the Filipino language. Look closely at the histology of dialects and you will see. To me, I wouldn’t mind using mother tongue to explain some situations especially when it comes to application of the theories of learning just for the sake that students understand the point. But the more we use it in the classroom, we will definitely get lost. Why? Look at the surroundings, the language we are all using. You can’t almost find a package that uses a Filipino word in it much more to a local language. English has been our indirect first language. So what’s the point of using the mother tongue if we don’t actually apply it? I wouldn’t rely on this issue to teachers alone. Teachers are trained to teach what has to be taught and in what ways. They can be absolutely flexible based from their training at school. How do you think your class would sound like if you teach in the city where different people came into your classroom? Do you think as a teacher, using your mother language would improve their way of living when they graduate? Absolutely not. I’ve been teaching Math and Science abroad for five years now in English instruction. I have noticed and heard different people of different English-speaking countries and they are not the same. But if I didn’t have the basic English knowledge and ideas, I will be totally lost in translation. I owe it all to the English instruction at my public high school even it’s in the countryside and to the textbooks written in English. I can’t imagine how the higher Mathematics will be taught in Visayan which is my mother tongue, not even in Tagalog. I learned all the science terms in English; I don’t even know the words in Filipino. Filipinos are hired abroad because they can understand English and the fact that Filipino is well-adapted with Western stuff though they are Asians. How can they survived if they were not trained to speak and exchanged ideas in English? How can we completely globally if we don’t have enough training which is based in the classroom where English is used as the medium of instruction? Practice makes perfect if you did the right thing. It’s not a question of preserving our own language. I lived abroad for a long time and so with my relatives, we all can speak fluent Visayan when we go home in Philippines and understand Tagalog very well (though we only speak it when all Filipinos gather around). But does it reflect how successful we were? No. But of course, we get better jobs not only abroad, even if we come and stay in our country. You can’t deny that the better you speak English; it does uplift your social status and your ability to understand other things other than you already know. According to research, instruction in the student's native language is very important. Once the child mastered the native language it is easier to transfer it to a 2nd language such as Pilipino, then English. When I was in grade school in Pangasinan, we were taugh English in grade 1. I'm surprised
the school system does not have a current plan when to teach English in the curriculum? Do they? You are right, in the states, when a Pilipino or any non-native English speaker speak English to the Americans they do not criticize the person who is trying to speak . Americans are always fascinated with non Americans such as Pilipinos. They are aware that Pilipinos speak more than one language. Americans wished that they could do the same. Fellow Filipinos, lets give our co Pilipinos a break. If the person has pilipit ng tagalog,Ilocano or Visaya accent let it be. They are giving it a try to speak. Be glad they can speak Ilocano, Tagalog , English and many more. That's how a person learn the language. Keep trying,practice makes a person speak much better. If you criticize my tagalog, I will not speak tagalog infront or near you becuz I am not given the freedom to practice. That's how Michael Phelps won his 7 or 8 gold Olympic medals. He trains everyday. In conclusion, we must practice to speak and write English daily. I was never ever been told by my american friends that I speak pilipit English. I learned how to pronounce and speak everyday. If I know , I am mispronounced a word, I ask them ,say it for me. They tell me , I'm doing fine. Ilocano and other Pilipino dialects are beautiful. I hope you think the same. I used to speak 5 dialects.I learned them in college in Manila. I learned them while I was in my boarding house 47 years ago. I just know 2 now. Whatever you don't use , you loose. Now, you understand why I forgot the 3 other dialects I didn't have anyone to speak to. Be appreciative of your native tongue. Cres Here are the subjects i had in my elementary school that help myself communicate well to fellow filipinos as well as to foreigners.
In my school from Grade 1 up to Grade 6 we had the following subject: PILIPINO=gamit ang pambansang wika(itinuturo ang wastong bigkas at pangungusap at ano sa tagalog ang mga english o bicol words) ARALIN PANLIPUNAN=gamit ang pambansang wika. MUSIKA/MUSIC gamit ang bicol,tagalog at english. PRACTICAL ARTS/SCIENCE/MATH/SOCIAL STUDIES/POPULATION EDUCATION/HOME ECONOMIC/PHYSICAL EDUCATION etc.are all teach in english at kung mayroon inglis na salitang hindi maintindihan ng mag-aaral,malayang magtanong sa guro kung ano sa bicol o sa tagalog ang english words na noon pa lang nila narinig at malugod naman isinasalin sa bikol o sa tagalog ng mabait at matalinong guro ang mga english word na hindi pa alam ng mag-aaral. Kaya para sa akin ang medium of instruction ng mga school natin ay english tagalog at mother tongue. Anyway student standard of learning depends to parents/teacher´s capacity to teach...ika nga kung tanga at tamad ang magulang/guro ganon rin mga mag-aaral. What the teachers/parents teach is what the childrens/students learn from them. Di ba matalino kayo sa school kung ang magulang nyo at titser nyo ay magaling magturo dahil mga gutom,tamad at ulyanin lang ang mga bobo. whether we like it or not we need to learn english languange (listening, reading, writing, and speaking). In fact Filipino is better than Americans as far as spelling is concern. Of course americans speak fluent english because english lang. is their mother tongue. But in terms of spelling, they are poor. Anyway, what I'm trying to emphazise here, english is a universal lang. and to be competetive globally, it should be learn. Multilingual person has a big advantage in a competitive world.
english is the universal language. we need to teach our children to be an english literate so they become competitive when they grow up.
Pabagsakin ang kolonyal na mentalidad ng mga Pilipino!!! Ang wikang ingles ay walang maidudulot na buti sa ating karunungang yaman dahil maglalaho din ang wikang ito kagaya ng mga naunang sibilisasyon ... katulad ng mga wikang griyego, persyano at ehipsyo... ano pang silbi ng isang wika kung ito ay malapit na maglaho kasabay ng isang bansang nagpapangap na demokratiko... na ngayon ay isa ng huwad na sosyalismo... ang mga naniniwalang ang Ingles ay susi sa kaginhawahan ay pawang mga mangmang at linta na sumisira sa yamang kultura ng maharlikang pilipino.
Bakit ba napakaraming nagbibigay ng opinyon nag-iisip?
If you are teaching here in the Philippines (and please sa mga nagtuturo sa ibang bansa, hwag na kayong mag-comment na English ang gamit ninyo --- Philippine setting tayo), it is really sad to see students staring at you when you are discussing your lesson in English. Reasons: basahin po iyong mga nag-post tungkol sa sinulat ni Constantino, Teodoro at iyong mga sinasabi pa ni Isagani Cruz ng DLSU. Pwede ba maniwala tayo sa mga linguists, dahil kahit si Butch Dalisay or si Isagani Cruz (educator and writer), hindi rin nag-promote ng gustong ipalabas ni Gullas. Hindi rin ako naniniwala na mawawala ang English sa curriculum, it would be better if the students learn the language when they have acquired the basic skills in all other areas. Ok lang na ang English ang medium of instruction sa HS in all other subjects except Filipino, but it should not be mandatory specially in Mathematics and Science where the skill is very important. Ang nakikita ko lang na dahilan bakit gusto nilang maging English ang lahat, eh para mag-export na lang tayo ng tao. Kung ganun din lang naman, tanggalin na natin ang FILIPINO subject sa ating curriculum. Palitan ang Kasaysayan ng Pilipinas ng "History and culture of the other countries where you can work" bilang asignatura sa mga paaralan. Idagdag ko lang na h'wag na tayong maniwala sa mga academicians and experts. HINDI naman natin nakuha ang mensahe. Para kay Prof. Monsod, kung nagkataong naging batas po ang Gullas Bill, kawawa naman po iyong mga Prof sa UP, ATENEO, DLSU.... ang alam ko kasi bi-lingual ang gamit nila. Make Cebuano a national language in visayas and mindanao because it is our mother tongue and better than tagalog.
Do like these: Medium of Instruction-Multilingual approach Science & Math- English English Courses-English Social Studies-Cebuano History-Cebuano Filipino, Home Economics-Filipino Computer & IT-English What do u think on this approach Why we need to embrace International Language?
Do u think it would make us RICH? What we should do is to develop opportunities, research & devt to uplift the poor conditions of our society in a national level. We should enhance our english speaking skills. As an OFW who is lucky to work in a higher position in an International company, I realize that we Pinoys have the enough talent, knowledge& Skills. However some of our kababayan dont have the capacity to deliver and express their knowledge and skill properly due to lack of speaking skills in english. For that reason,we sometimes fail in the global competitions w/ other asean country such as India and Sri Lanka.
Whether we like it or not, we are now Globally connected in almost all areas. We should start teaching our childrens the proper way to speak English for them to be globally competetive. This is not for us but for the future of our filipino childrens. Day by day global competition is very tough. Ito sa lahat ng magaling na gustong mother tounge ang ituro as medium of instruction. Paki-translate nga itong sample Health Instruction.
Examples of DVs versus %DVs Based on a 2,000 Calorie Diet Nutrient DV %DV Goal Total Fat 65g = 100%DV Less than Sat Fat 20g = 100%DV Less than Cholesterol 300mg = 100%DV Less than Sodium 2400mg = 100%DV Less than Total Carbohydrate 300g = 100%DV At least Dietary Fiber 25g = 100%DV At least Ito pa dagdag pa sa makikitid niong utak at gamitin nio tagalog para mag construct ng program code.
System.out.println(); System.out.println("+===============================================+"); System.out.println("| ** ** |"); System.out.println("| ** ARRAY DECLARATION ** |"); System.out.println("| ** ** |"); System.out.println("+===============================================+"); System.out.println(); // Example 1 // --------- // First declare a reference and then construct it. int[] ExampleArray1; ExampleArray1 = new int[24]; // Example 2 // --------- // This can be considered the short form for declaring and construction. int[] ExampleArray2 = new int[24]; namputsa naman puro kayo dakdakan dito na mother tounge.....sige nga gumawa nga kayo ng program code sa tagalog!!!!! Tapos ibenta nio ung software na magawa nio sa Labas at kung may bibili!!!!! Ang kitid ng mga utak nio puro lang kayo makabayan hindi nio na inisip ung kinabukasan naming mga MTV Generation at mga darating pa na henerasyon. Para sa Lahat,
Ikaw ang makitid ang utak! sino ba may sabi sayong klngan itranslate yang programming code at yang medical terms sa tagalog o mother tongue? napakababaw ng analysis mo, napaka-literal ng pagkakaintindi mo o hindi mo naiintindihan yung issue... pinaguusapan dito, implementation in Grade School... at dapat pagdating sa College or High School marunong ka ng mag-English. Kaya hindi kailngan itranslate yang mga terms mo... hpa magbasa ka ng mabuti ng article ito cut and paste ko para sayo.
Basahin mong mabuti ha...... This is where the Gullas bill comes in. The rationale of that bill is that if we want to have greater competence in English, and be in a position to take advantage, or compete in a globalized world, English must be used as the medium of instruction from Grade 3 onwards. Ito pa dagdag na sample tests ng pamangkin kong nasa Grade 3 sa Montessori School at paki translate mo na rin. Open an Excel workbook. Click on the column heading A. The entire column will highlight. Scroll over to the right until you can see column heading Z. Hold down your shift key and click on the Z. You should now have 26 columns selected. Click on the line between any two column heading letters and drag to the left until the column width is approximately 3 (26 pixels). When you release the mouse button all 26 columns will be the same narrow width. Scroll back to column A and click anywhere to remove the highlight color. We will use these grid lines as reference points for our number line. To make the number line you will draw one long thick horizontal line with arrows on both ends. All other lines will be created with the Borders toolbar button. You must have the Drawing toolbar open to draw this line. If the toolbar is not open, go to the View menu, select Toolbars and slide over to Drawing and click one time. Click on the word AutoShapes in the Drawing toolbar, move your cursor to Lines and click one time on the line with two arrow heads. Move your cross hair cursor somewhere near the middle of the sheet, close to the left edge. Place your cross hair cursor on the vertical grid line that is between B and C. Click and drag a straight line (hold down the Shift key to do this) until you get to the vertical grid line between Column headings R and S. While the line is still selected, move your cursor to the Line Style button on the Drawing toolbar and select the thick line labeled 3 pt. Click in the cell that is immediately above the left arrow head. If you started on the vertical grid line between B and C, the cell will be in column B. We are going to place a vertical line on the right side of that cell by using the Border button on the Formatting toolbar. The button is to the left of the paint bucket. Click on the down pointing triangle to the right of the dashed lines and click on the bottom button named Draw Borders. From the Borders pop-up, click on the down pointing arrow in the Line Style box and slide down to the thicker border just below the double border line. Use the pencil to draw a thick line from top to bottom of the cell directly above the left end of the arrow. Next, we draw the same line in each of the fifteen cells to the right. However, we will take a shortcut. On the Standard toolbar you will see a paintbrush. This paintbrush is named Format Painter because it can absorb the formatting of something and transfer that formatting to something else. We just formatted a cell to have a right border. With the cursor still in the cell that has a right border, double-click the format painter toolbar button. One at a time click on each of the cells to the right of the starting point until you have reached the arrowhead. Don’t click on the arrowhead. On the row below the number line, put the right border on the cell directly under the first cell, and then every fifth cell until you reach the last cell before the right arrow head. Students may be confused by a number line without numbers, and Excel will not put the numbers where you want them. To solve that problem we will create numbers in a text box, and they can be moved anywhere you want them. One text box number will be created and formatted the way we want them. Then we will copy, paste, and edit to make the others. The text box button is on the Drawing toolbar. Click on the button and then click and drag a small box anywhere on the worksheet. Type the number 1. Click and drag to highlight the number and select font size 18 from the Formatting toolbar, and then click on the B (near font size) to make the number bold. There is a gray looking border around the text book, composed of diagonal lines. Click anywhere on the diagonal lines, but not on one of the circles, to turn the border into a series of dots. From the Menu bar at the top, click on the Format menu and select Text Box. On the Alignment tab select Center for both the horizontal and vertical alignment. On the Colors and Lines tab select No Fill for the fill color. You may not see the reason for selecting No Fill, after all, it’s white fill on a white background. If you do not remove the fill color, when moving the number into place the white background may overlap some part of the number line. The image below shows progressive changes made to one of the text boxes used in this project. . To copy the number, hold down the Ctrl key and press the C key (Ctrl + C). After a number has been copied, paste several more of the numbers by holding down the Ctrl key and pressing the V key (Ctrl + V) several times. Create the numbers you want for your number line by editing the number in a text box. Click in the text boxes, highlight the number and change it to the numbers you will need; negative values, negative to positive values, multiples of five, whatever you want to use. To move a number first click on the number, then click on the gray box surrounding the number. Now the numbers can be moved with the keyboard arrows or by clicking and dragging. On the Drawing toolbar click on the word AutoShapes, slide up to Block Arrows and click on the down pointing arrow on the right end of the top row. Use the cross hair cursor to click and drag and draw a long slender arrow. anywhere on the worksheet. Use the Fill Color paint bucket to color the arrow red. This arrow can now be moved by clicking and dragging, or by using the keyboard arrows (if the arrow is selected) to indicate a point on the number line. You may leave the grid lines in place or remove them. To remove the grid lines, go to the Tools menu, slide down to Options and click one time. On the View tab, in the bottom left corner there is a checkmark by the word Gridlines. Click in the box to remove the check mark and then click OK to return to a blank worksheet.
#155.1.1.1
hpa
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2009-03-09 15:36
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Para sa lahat,
Imposing a strict usage of tagalog or mother tongue as a mean of intruction on Private schools specially on Montessori in a subject which is english in nature is stupidity! My niece graduated top from "Headway School For Giftedness", why I mentioned it? i hope you can read between the lines... I'm against with Gullan Bill because I'm worried for poor filipinos... for those parents who don't have time to guide their children on their studies... for those who can't afford to pay for english tutorials... sa hirap ng buhay, kaktrabaho... wala ng time ang magulang turuan ang anak...
#155.1.1.1.1
pro-english
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2009-03-09 17:56
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hpa
Wether there is Gullas bill or not the ability of teachers to teach the school childrens still what counts...in a global world we live at,it will be good for poor children to have english as medium of instruction to help them alleviate their poor standard of living.If they will stick only in their mother tongue,then it is better they just help their parents in earning a living.It is for the good of poor family,poor children to have access to good teachings that will help them alleviate their poor livings on the coming days. There is plenty of opportunity for english literate individuals to easily find a jobs in locals/abroad than those who can´t speak/understand english at all. I am from poor family,i am thankful that english was our medium of instructions in elementary,it helps me becomes familiar with english words and being poor or having busy parents is not a hassle for a child to learn,it is the capacity and ability of teachers that helps makes all school childrens becomes smarter.What they teach,is what you learn. Still the quality of educations still in the hands of school teachers.I had a school classmates whose parents"no read no write"but my mate still manages to belong to one of the smartest student in our class. So for me being poor,having no parents or having busy parents is not a hassle for a child to learn and becomes smarter. It is english that help filipinos find works abroad,if not by english,we are still considered a country of apes.If not by english our talents wasn´t even recognized abroad. If Charice,Arnel can not understand english,would they even give feelings to the songs they sing?Would they understand americans that give them opportunity to showcase their talents. If Dr.Jose Rizal knows only tagalog,would he wrote his masterpiece into spanish and let the spanish people knew about his hatred over spanish unfair traits toward filipinos. The more languages an individuals knows the better,they have more chance to survives where ever country their fates brought them. Those who decides to stay in their home country are those whose coward to see other sides of the world. Be thankful that english was taught in our school system if not,we are like those tarzans in the jungle of nowhere.
#155.1.1.1.2
Para sa lahat
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2009-03-09 18:02
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hpa
I am with you however I do not pitty those whom you considered poor or marginalized Filipinos. Why? My answer is very simple. My family used to be in that group before however I dream big that I will never end up poor. If my parents did not push for me to learn the English language even I am going to public school. Then I would have ended up a losser. Sabihin ko sa iyo Piso lang ang kaya ng parents ko na baon na kaya nilang ibigay for the week at tinitiis ko na lakarin 10 Kms everyday between school and our house. I believe that if English will be incorporated as medium of instruction even at primary level, this will further strengthen the knowledge base to understand more for majority. Exception yung mga tamad na matuto. Tagalog or pilipino help filipinos communicate with filipinos but it doesn´t help the filipinos communicate with foriegners visited the country.
Examples of it,when a british lady went to market to buy a pair of slippers,the saleslady doesn´t understand what is "slipper"so i´d volunteer myself to help the salelady,i´d translate the english for her to understand,sabi ko sa tindera gusto ng dayuhan bumili ng tsinelas,mayroon ka bang tinitinda na kasya sa kanya at magugustuhan nya? In that case,if the salelady has knowledge in english,our tourist can be a big help to brought incomes to our poor economy. In Thailand,though many of them can not speak english,tourist keep coming to them because of cheap foods,clean,friendly people and the people are courteous and willing to communicate using their calculator but if you look for something that you don´t see in their sales better not ask for it,because you might just gave yourself a headache,as some of them still like our kababayans only knews our native or mother tongue. Only those educated thai people can speak better english,all the rest sounds chinese or japanese.We filipinos can easily understand english because our alphabet either it is mother or national languages is derived from roman alphabet that help us learn easy the english,german,french,spanish,portuguese,compares to thai,chinese,japanese,koreans,israel,arabic etc.,their languages written differently,so that could be the reasons why they have a hardtime in learning roman alphabet as well as roman numerals...as i have a hardtime learning their languages as well. It was good that british occupied Hongkong,it help many chinese to learn to speak,write,understand english and through english MIC(Made in China)was globally sold as long as there is products manual written in english,speaking literate people would buy it. Filipino products sold abroad mostly using english as a way to let consumers knew the contents of our products and that help the foriegners patronized Philippines products as well. I went to a China store here in my area,i saw a Philippines product but it was labelled with arabic,the only arabic i understand is the word "halaL"as it is holy"a canned cook laing w/o pork or any meat only used coconut oil)but with out the pictures of laing and coconut there is no way i would understand what was inside of the can. Many of arabians,chinese,japanese,etc. travel around to different countries not because they can afford but because they can communicate in english and other languages as well. So help the filipinos becomes globally competitive,let them learn english at early ages. I used english as mother tongue of my kids and deutsch as father and official languages of this country we live at...if we visit RP i am sure only those relatives and friends learned english can communicate with my kids.Those who don´t would be satisfied of just listening to their conversations...and i bet they will think it is really an advantages if an individual has knowledge in other foreign language especially on english. But if my children has already english in school,then i would use tagalog or bicol as mother tongue that way they have a bit knowledge of my native language back in Philippines. For now,it is good enough that they can communicate in at least two languages that i´d considered very important for them. Anyway to make the world more easy to travel around at,english can connect us to any country as long as they too learn to speak and understand english. Only those filipinos who doesn´t want to learn other languages will refuse to learn. Sabi ng asawa ko kaya hindi ako bihasa sa german kasi ayaw ko matuto,tama naman sya pero sabi ko naman kung laging german ang gagamitin kong salita paano ang mga anak namin matuto mag-english. I can learn any other languages as long as i spent time to learn it,but for now i am satisfied enough that i am english literate. By 3rd grade, a child is already 8 or 9. He should have the ability to learn and master a new language at this point. Do not underestimate the intelligence of young children.
It's the ability of educators to teach in English that I am worried about. IMO, no matter how intelligent a child is, if the instructor is stupid as hell; the child will learn nothing. Guillas bill does not necessarily mean owing the second language and apply it in every aspect of our life. me as a student react upon being in favor of the bill for it also help us not just by our mere language but as well to how we carry ourselves in front of different culture being more confident on facing the reality of the World today, our mother tongue is still being maintain for it is still use by our companions and not only that we can communicate still using our own a=it does not prohibits us to our right anyways, we are being sent to school to learn in a way english will help us much for the future as young as of today we are being practiced by the four corners of a place. guillas bill is just stating that we should use english as a medium of instruction starting grade three and onwards so it will not be a shock to the students and the individual or the child has the capacity to sink everything in their mind. imagine everything in your own dialect do you thing when there is an intercourse of everybody in our country can understand the other? where can you find unity in a country if there is a variety od dialect and the country man can not understand each other much as well, let us just face the reality .. i am not saying that i am not proud of my dialect but i just want to say that unit in language can help more in human activity and can help our country develop too... do not just limit yourself to your dialect for a country like ours having a variety of language or having a dialects it will be more beneficial to us to have a unity for once in this aspect.
how ironic... you chided Ex-BB Pilipinas Janina San miguel for her erroneous english and yet you wrote "medium of INSTRUCTIONS"?! What?! It is only written without a letter "S" my dear hercy nieva... the proper phrase is "medium of instruction"... but hey, you got a point... Guess we really need to have English as our medium of INSTRUCTION after your blunder. hehehehe PLS TAKE NOTE OF HERCY NIEVA ON NO. 1 OF THE COMMENT LIST... HAHAHAHA
Reasons why I wanted to be proficient in English were; I wanted to get a high paying job. I wanted to be more confident in dealing with the clients(local or foreign). I wanted to be better....
It is beneficial- personal and professional level! When applying for a job, you are being interviewed, your resume is not a guarantee that you can get the job. Tell me something about yourself? What is your edge? Why do we hire you? If you want to get the job, will you answer in Tagalog or Cebuano? Will that be an advantage in getting a job? How do you sell yourself in an interview? Companies have standards. Check company job posting, on the list of qualifications, MUST BE FLUENT IN ENGLISH. If you don't get the job, can you just argue with the interviewer that I don't need to be fluent in English! I am good at this? I am good at that? So do you think they will buy that? I speak Tagalog, Cebuano, Hiligaynon, Kinaray-a and Akeanon. And now studying Spanish. Applying for a job is like entering a dense jungle and the rule of the jungle, just an FYI is survival of the fittest! But I survived! I qualified...I met the expectations and standards of the company. I know it will not always be the case. Employment is scarce in our country. But, like I've said. The law of the jungle applies-Survival of the fittest! We must survive! Hard work, determination and passion are keys to success. Proficient in English is an advantage! My bad! I forgot to tell you that I speak English too...di namam obvious! hehehe
again, napakaraming marunong mag-isip...
pwede ba, magturo kayo sa elementary level tapos gawa tayo assesment/test at tignan natin kung makakakuha ng mataas ang mga bata.(although pinakita na ito sa artcile ni Mareng Winnie) Bawal ang titser magpaliwanag ng mga nakasulat na mga technical details sa Filipino (or other dialect) but pure English Ako na magsasabi sa inyo, your student will be staring at you. Hindi naman lahat eh lumaki na english ang gamit sa pagsasalita. The issue here is this: are we going to use English only as a medium of instruction or should we used the mother tongue in elementary teaching. Sa secondary pwedeng baguhin na iyan...The problem again is, kahit sa kolehiyo, may pinaghalong Filipino at English pa rin ang gamit. Kapag may nagsabi sa akin na may paaralan na Public school na purong English ang gamit at mataas ang nakuhang marka sa kahit anong pagsusulit. Sige, palitan na natin lahat. Cerritos High School in Cerritos, California. 20 kms. south east of Los Angeles, California. The school is made up of 80 percent asians where most of them have english as their second language and their mother tongues are filipino, mandarin, Korean, indian, etc.
The students excell in math, english and science year after year relative to all public high schools in the entire state of California. The group with low scores are always the African americans, the hispanics, and then the whites...in this order. Something to think about? Among the Asian American Filipino is in the bottom of picking order. hahaaaah. Naninaninanaaaahh.
#162.1.1.1
Anonymous
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2009-03-13 12:11
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You seem to be the LOSER kasi PECKING ORDER ang tama..hindi Picking Order.
You can say it wrong if you are used to your dialect but you should not write it incorrectly....unless you are the LOSER. "think our leaders should focus more on how to make Filipino competitive in many ways not in low pay OFW who is brassy English." .......who is brassy english. - What the heck did you mean by this? English ba yan? Wag na lang. So sino ba talaga ang loser? Pinoys like you make pinoys look like losers kung ganyan ang english mo...and pinoys like you are at the bottom of the PECKING ORDER among pinoys. LoL!!! Let me share this with you, I started late so I had difficulties and challenges. I want my kids at an early age, know and speak the English language.
In my case, it's better late than never! Hello,
This is to share with you what the real picture is right now. BPO is just one big industry that needs English Speaking Talents. This is not to generalize and to discredit the effort of our parents to send their children at school ending up as CC Agents. However, with the current global economic crisis, let us remember that BPO business created shield to protect us from going deep in time of recession. To note that this is the advantage we are now enjoying because "Majority of Foreign Outsourcing companies sees our English Speaking Talent" an advantage for their business. Ending ending....Pinas ang bagsak at Filipino ang nag-benefit. See full report below: BPO sector: English skills no longer enough By Abigail L. Ho Philippine Daily Inquirer First Posted 19:35:00 03/10/2009 Filed Under: Technology (general), business process outsourcing (BPO) MANILA, Philippines—While the Philippines’ deep bench of English speakers makes the country top of mind for most companies off-shoring some of their functions, workers of the local business process outsourcing sector need to go beyond just English proficiency to advance in the field. “What we need is strong material for leadership—someone with critical thinking. We don’t want to hire a ‘potential.’ We want to hire people who can immediately play the role of manager because the pressures in the industry are enormous,” Sitel Philippines Corp.’s Noel Duldulao said in a forum. Duldulao said there was still a dearth of BPO managers and executives, despite there being around 400,000 workers in the BPO sector. Accenture Philippine recruitment head Rina Clamor agreed, saying most of the company’s high-value, healthcare-related services were still headed by expatriates. This made leadership positions in the BPO sector very high-priced, she said. She said the yield rate in the BPO industry was “very poor” at around 5 percent--or five hires from a sea of 100 applicants. JP Morgan country operations manager Barry Marshall, for his part, said BPO workers who could offer more than good English would make the industry more sustainable. “Because of the economic crisis, cost efficiency has become a critical factor. To be a globally integrated enterprise, one has to think more about the long-term play and not just short-term labor arbitrage,” he said. “Labor arbitrage erodes over time. What we need are people who can contribute to the bottom line. Success comes from a combination of labor arbitrage and cost efficiency. These would make for a successful long-term play,” he added. He said critical thinking was an important trait for BPO workers to imbibe, as this provided added value to what they could do. Beyond answering calls and doing basic voice functions, critical thinking could be applied to other aspects of the BPO chain. “Just having English proficiency doesn’t give us sustainability. That’s good for immediate hiring. But for long-term sustainable value, we need soft skills and critical thinking,” he said we cannot compete globally if we can't speak english well. this is a good bill. take note that philippines have a lot of dialects. in visayas and mindanao mostly speaks cebuano language. Filipino is spoken only in Luzon,..
Filipino or tagalog should only be a subject to be taught in class. it is also good to have back Spanish..or any foreign language to be included in the curriculum to compete globally... its a bad idea to have Filipino as medium of instruction in school. i just couldn't imagine how you will answer your foreign employer during an interview...hmmmm.. English does not make filipinos competent, but it does make most of us pa social social kuno kahit walang pera.
Gullas choose a wrong bill to present to filipinos. It should be a bill on how to raise the IQ in general and be COMPETENT IN MATH, SCIENCE, TECHNOLOGY AND BUSINESS. We already speak and understand english, adding a useless bill waste tax money that will go to the pocket of politician from Cebu like Gullas and Kumare. Bisag unsaon pa nimog bali balihun ang utok para lang ma hasa sa english, wa gyuy paingon ug di kabalo mag huna huna ug unsay maayo para sa kaugmaon. Kanang englis englisa para ra na sa mga mabaw taong inyong dali ilaron para makakuha ug barato nga suweldo. Wa gyuy silbi ning atong mga beteranong politiko, kahibao mangilad. are you not a filipino/filipina?
Pinoy are not losers,they maybe the lowest paid OFW,DH,whore or whatever jobs they are into but give atleast respect for this people,they are willing to kiss somebody ass,shower foreigners of gold,silver and pearls rather than invading other country just to enrich this nation. Igalang mo naman ang pilipino at wag mo naman silang hamakin dahil kahit mahirap ang buhay ng pilipino ay may dangal,kultura,payapang buhay naman silang iniingatan.Ang pilipino mapagmahal,marunong makipagkapwa,maawain.Hindi sila nang-aapi ng ibang lahi,kaya sila palagi ang inaapi. Ang pilipino ay matagumpay sa larangan ng alinman sukatan ng dunong.Masyado kang humahanga sa yaman ng ibang bansa na nakuha lang naman nila sa panggugulang nila sa mga mahinang bansa. Alin bansa ba ang ipinagmamalaki mo at sasabihin ko kung anong baho ang mayroon sila at bakit sila maunlad! I am proud Filipino, I love my kababayan at I love the philippines as a country and its tropical geographic location.
Ang problema ay ang ating mga policy maker tayo ay kanilang pinapahiya sa mundo. Lalo na yang Gullas bill na hindi naman kailangan. Mao nga nag antos na lang sa kapait kining atong kanasod maninguha sa laing nasod tungod sa mga kabuang niining atong mga politiko. I think our leaders should focus more on how to make Filipino competitive in many ways not in low pay OFW who is brassy English. After reading all of those comments I think everyone has good points of view.
What we need is be more optimistic rather than being pessimist. “Masyado tayong nagpapalamon sa mga negatibong bagay. Iniisip natin, bakit may mga bansa namang di gumagamit ng Ingles pero maunlad sila. Yes, it is a good point but we are talking about being competitive. We should admit and face the reality, it is quite impressive if we can speak English fluently especially in a job interviews. Mas naiimpress natin ang mga employer “ In regards to Guillas bill I think it will help as to be competitive in some ways. “ Ngunit higit mas lalo nating tutukan ang pamantayan ng pagtuturo. Maraming aspeto rin ng ating edukasyon ang bumababa. Wala tayong sapat a silid paaralan, mga kagamitan sa pag-aaral tulad ng libro, at iba pang kailangang materyaesl sa eskwelahan. “ Above all of this positive outlook in life is still a key to success. Regardless of what language do you speak. Love your own language. BUT be open-minded… MABUHAY ANG PILIPINAS! well said BOGZ,i hope you could donate your preciuos time to teach filipino childrens for atleast a one year.If all professionals that went out of the country to earn a living abroad payback the knowledge they owed to their mother country then RP will be progressives as it want to be.
Kaya maunlad ang ibang bansa dahil ang mga henyo nila ay bumabalik sa kanilang inangbayan matapos makapag-ipon ng sapat sa kanilang bansang pinagsilbihan,uuwi silang may sapat na salapi upang matugunan ang personal na pangangailangan at para magsilbi ng kahit isang taon na walang hinihinging suweldo o anuman gantimpala sa kanilang serbisyong publiko inilaan sa kanilang kababayan para ituro sa kanila ang kanilang natutuhan sa loob at labas ng bansa. Kung gagawin yan ng mga pilipinong henyo at makabayan may katiyakan ng magandang bukas ang bansang Pilipinas. Ang problema ang karamihan sa mga kababayan,once they becomes a citizen of another country,limot na rin nila ang kanilang pinagmulan "Lupang Hinirang" na nagpalaki sa kanila,nagturo,naging gabay at nagmahal sa kanila upang sila ay maging matalino at matagumpay sa kanilang paglalakbay sa loob o labas man ng inangbayan. South Korea becomes progressives because all their people strives hard to help their motherland get-up from poverty after being worldwide workers,all the remittances their country had goes to projects that makes their country what it is now,a progressive industrialized nation. Kung sa mabuting paraan nilulustay ng gobyerno at mamamayan ang perang pinapadala at tulong ng mga bansang gusto tumulong para makabangon ang nalulugmok na ekonomiya ng pinas,after a year or two ay makakabangon rin ang pinas sa dusang kinasasadlakan,iyan ay kung handang tumulong ang lahat ng pilipinong pinapag-aral ng pinas upang maging dalubhasa sa alinman bagay. pasingit lang manang winnie' ADDING 100 MORE CONGRESSMAN THEN THATS ADDING MORE CORRUPTION. THATS THE CRAZIEST SEN ENRILE WILL DO' YOU WILL END UP OF ZERO VOTES IF YOU RUN ANOTHER TERM' 100 PERCENT THE PEOPLE IS AGAINST ADDING 100 MORE CONGRESSMAN' WE HAVE GOVERNORS AND VICE GOVERNOR AND COUNCILORS IN THE PROVINCE. MOSTLY CONGRESSMAN IS MAKING PORCIENTO OF ALL THE PROJECTS IN THE PROVINCE' THEY GOT BIG KICKBACKS THEN ADDING MORE CONGRESSMAN THEN THATS ADDING MORE CORRUPTION. YOU AHVE TO CONSULT THE PEOPLE CAUSE ITS THE PEOPLE WHO'S PAYING TAX.
Please kindly sir or madam I want to see the Diosdado Presidential Degree Number 1081? And please did President Diosdado have a swizz account in Switzerland? Do President Ferdiand E. Marcos is a poor boy form Sarrat Ilocos Norte? Did President Diosdado is a rich boy from Lumbao Pampamga. So please kindly answer me right now sir or madam
HOY RUSSEL ARCIAGA nakakasuka ang english mo... hehehe anung swizz? saang planeta ba yan??? Huwag ka nalang mag try mag englis kasi wala kang pag asa...
Please kindly sir or madam bring back Bangued Abra to be Region 1 again please kindly now sir or madam:
Here's an interesting eye-opener:
Language is culture. This is a fundamental lesson in my college anthropology class. Filipinos think, speak and feel in Filipino and in many of its variants. The conduct of our daily lives is in Filipino -- the culture, that is, and not just the language as expressed in written or oral forms. We are cognitively wired this way and therefore our structure of cognition is one that is built on the Filipino culture, if indeed we have a definitive characterization of this way of life. Our educators should know this fact and should confront the “problem” of deficiency in English proficiency in a manner that addresses the entire culture as a whole. Otherwise, our people would just be parroting a language that they can hardly feel -- which, therefore, contributes to the demise of our culture. In the end, nothing much will come out of the state’s efforts, no matter how much we spend to address the issue. The French are proud of their language. So too the Italians with theirs. The Thais, Malaysians and Koreans have made great strides in their economy, yet their language was never viewed as a problem. Are we trying to build a culture and an economy based on the English language? This really baffles me no end. Pardon the remark, but it’s in the structure of cognition, stupid! Sometimes what kills us is..... "overreaction"!
From a dictionary it means: an excessive reaction; a reaction with inappropriate emotional behavior. I was born in 1966. When I was in grade school, DepEd had this "experimental bilingual class" in public school system. I don't know if it was 100% but my school was one of them. There will always be pros and cons no matter what. Ang importante.....may exposure. Dito sa US, if ur bilingual, you have an advantage. They encourage bilingualism! I don't think may connection ang choice or use of language with one's being successful......more than......how much self-esteem that person has and how one carries himself. Character-building is the primary factor! Maaaring magaling ka pero, zero ang values mo. Pwedeng Tagalog lang ang alam mo pero u have the drive to learn more. Pwede ring bobo ka during elementary days pero you boosted your way up when u become an adult. etc.,etc. I won't agree with Gullas Bill if it means "stick to english".....hindi naman ito America at lalong hindi tayo Amerikano.....WE SHOULD PRESERVE OUR OWN IDENTITY! I agree with you on all counts pero ang malaking problema against preserving our own identity are our own leaders in the government and those in the entertainment industry.
They are the two largest group being looked up to by the masses. Kung sino pa ang tinitingala ng mga tao sila pa ang mahilig magsalita ng english. You start with the president, the senators, the congressmen, the officers in the military, the PNP officers, cabinet members, judges, lawyers, doctors, actors and actresses, etc. Pag nakaharap na sa TV camera eh nakakalimutan na ang salitang Pilipino. The young and the future generation think the way to go is to know how to speak english. They don't know why but they think they must...because it must be cool. Ang sama naman at baluktot ang karamihan sa english nila. Yung nagagaya tuloy eh yung maling english. Together with their mediocre english is the other issue you mentioned... yung values. The politicians and the movie personalities are exhibiting the wrong values or no values for the young generations to emulate. Monkey see...monkey do. i see no reasons to say NO! to Gullas Bill,it is for the good of filipino people.
Now adays if you don´t can even speak or understand a single english word,they think you are a barbaric persons(uneducated monkey,like Erap) Can you blame the gov´t.officials,media personalities of trying hard to be english speaking people just to impress their countrymen that they can speak english somehow,though their origin were chinese,japanese,spanish,bombays,westerners,eauropeans blood. English is the only languages can help us understand other nationalities. We are filipinos but our roots are mostly foreign nationalities,so it will be impossible for filipinos to be becomes global citizens using mother tongue as medium of instruction. If i didn´t learn english,i don´t think i would be able to read and understand english books,how to run this computer,how to search,surf in internet. Is mother tongue used on product´s manuals how to run computers,how to assemble washing machine,how to fix your TV´s,Ref´s,computers,drugs prescription,surgeons instructions manual etc.??? If our generation know nothing other than mother tongue,would they be able to travel the world and becomes globally aware of what is going on in the middle east,west,east,north. Chinese,Japanese,germans,french etc.most of their people that has knowledge on other countries languages considered more educated,more successful than those that know nothing other than their native tongue. By the way is mother tongue help filipinos becomes successful in any field of studies? The reasons why we need to go to school is to study not to be fluent in our mother tongue as it bring no progress at all.We are still patriotic by taking good care of our country,keep it clean,beautiful,preserves our rich natural resources and talk to our fellow filipinos in the languages they are comfortable to use like"taglish"becomes the modern day languages of present filipino generations because of our country´s bilingual school system,we can not use only mother tongue in any field of studies because most of the scientific manuals are all written in english if not in german,french,arabic or whatever. Actually we filipinos should be proud of having able to speak minimum two or more languages,while other countries knew only their native or mother tongue. If we can sing,work,build dreams using mother tongue,national and international languages the better,it helps our talented individuals known worldwide,a pride of filipino people. See how english speaking countries envy filipinos for having the ability to speak/understand tagalog,visaya,ilocano,bicolano,english,german,french,etc. We can only choose to use our national languages as medium of instructions if filipinos can stand on itself and tagalog or pilipino words are to be used in all kinds of transactions,in schools,business,gov´t but with the problem our school system going thru,it is impossible to educates filipinos in their mother tongue...most of our teachers are not good using mother tongue of school children like an Ilocano teachers can not use their mother tongue to teach on Bicolanos school children,so for the comfort of both(teachers/students)make english as medium of instruction as it is the only ultimate solutions to makes filipinos becomes globally successful. I think so. |
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