Sunday, July 20. 2008Why the Eraserheads' reunion concert sucks
Like millions of Filipinos, I am an Eraserheads fanatic. No other Filipino band had such a musical impact on me. I still think "Ang Huling El Bimbo" is the greatest Filipino song ever written.
So when news broke that the Eheads are having a reunion concert, I was ecstatic. "Sa wakas, aaahhh aay…," a line in "Sa Wakas" in the album Circus, played in my head. But I won't line up to watch this concert. In fact, I will declare here that, perhaps for the first time, the Eheads, in agreeing to do this reunion concert, did something really stupid, if not downright unethical. Their breakup, I totally get. But this… this just sucks. Assuming that all that has been written about this supposed concert is true -- that the main sponsor is Marlboro, that all four of them will be there, that they will perform for 45 minutes, and that each of them will get millions – I think the Eraserheads are doing a great disservice not just to the generation of Filipinos who were weaned on their music but also to the younger ones who are bound, I am certain, to love their songs. Let me explain. Reunion concerts, as a concept, are nice. They're like a long-delayed encore. Unlike the usual concerts, reunion concerts tend to be a more intimate, more profound experience between the band and their followers. It cements this communion between the band and those who adore them. As if to say, "We had such a great time, let's do it again. Isa pa nga." To be sure, reunion concerts are conceptualized so that some people will make money. Nothing wrong with that. Ely Buendia and the others, I think, deserve the reported 10 million pesos that they would receive from Marlboro. Heck, I think they probably deserve more. But my beef against their supposed Aug. 30 concert, however, is that it smacks of shrewd, even manipulative marketing, by Philip Morris, the makers of Marlboro. The Internet is awash in stuff about this event. Not a few hinted that this is viral marketing at work. In fact, the buzz is so loud that Marlboro has earned so much marketing points. It can actually cancel the event and still walk away happy. My suspicion is that Marlboro is doing this because beginning this month, cigarette companies are no longer allowed to have advertisements in print, radio and television. And without advertisements, products like cigarettes would be nearly impossible to sell. Although the new law explicitly prohibits cigarette companies from sponsoring events such as concerts, they can, however, still be part of the event. And this being the Philippines, it's not so hard to imagine the many ways Marlboro can insinuate itself into events like this. Indeed, I'm fairly sure that the buzz this concert has been getting on the Internet is part of Marlboro's strategy. It's actually simple: they first spread this as rumor that was easily spread by the gazillion of Eheads fans out there. Soon after, the rumor took a life on its own, with the mainstream media picking it up as a legitimate news item. Soon, according to many accounts, Marlboro came out and confirmed the rumor as fact. Strictly speaking, Marlboro didn't do anything illegal. It did not advertise anything. (In fact, on its website where you are supposed to register in order to get a ticket to the concert, there's no mention of the cigarette brand at all, except in the URL). It did not promote anything in the media by way of press releases or advertisements. What Marlboro did was to create the buzz, which later turned into an event that found its way to the mainstream press. In the process, Marlboro got the attention that it craves to sustain interest in its deadly product. (And there's no doubt that Marlboro would try to push its brand during the concert itself.) Intelligent as they are, the Eraseheads must realize by now that they are being used by Marlboro to peddle a product that has been proven to be so fatal as to force the government to ban their advertisement and promotion in the popular press. I hope that, as the Eheads enjoy the millions that they will earn after this so-called reunion concert, they can sleep better at night. What really depresses me about all this is that the Eraseheads are really good and they didn't have to do this sort of thing. After they disbanded, life for each of them apparently went on. We, the fans, were sad to see the group go but we, too, have moved on. Every once in a while, we would pop their CDs into our stereos and we would take another trip with these four wonderful, jolly people. When the group died, their music lived on. Many of us didn't have to mourn their demise. That, to me, is what's so special about the Eraserheads. I not only communed with these four – I bonded with them. So, in a way, I feel betrayed. It would be fantastic if they'd reunite in a concert or once more as a group. But not under these circumstances. Like the cigarette the Eheads are peddling in this concert, watching them perform again not as musicians but veritable promo boys for Marlboro will leave a bad taste in the mouth. And if they went ahead with this concert, I will probably not enjoy their music the same way again. Which is heartbreaking because I was planning to collect all their albums and give them as gifts to my sons years from now. Carlos H. Conde is a journalist based in Manila. Trackbacks
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Eraserheads who?, Im feeling Airhead. I remember Mike Hanopol. I'm a damned hardcore METALLICA fan.
hardcore metallica fan??? pre hindi nmn hardcore ang metallica eh, nung naging mainstream sila...hindi rin sila metal...dont be a stupid poser na kunwari hindi alam ang e'heads...
haha hindi alam ang term na "hardcore". nag start ka kagad manira eh hindi mo nga alam what the guy (pepeng gurang) means about being a hardcore metallica fan. tsk tsk.
dapat kasi "hardcore fan ng metallica." di tuloy naintindihan...he-he
Hey I blogged about your article.
http://animohosting.com/main/why-the-eraserheads-reunion-concert-sucks-article-of-mr-carlos-conde/ i'm not smoker, music lover lang ako, nasa tao ang pag-iingat sa sarili para sa kalusugan nya,kung malboro ang sponsor wala na tayung magagawa doon kasi sila lang ang me kakayanan na magbayad ng P10,000,000.00 peso sa EHEADS,,,,,Good Luck EHEADS...wag na lang manira sa malboro or EHEADS , di pa tau sinilang me YOSI mga tol,,,,di ba???
tanong sa mga lawyer at mga tiga u.p.
okay ganito, sa aug 30 may concert ang bamboo sa bulacan, ang parokya, out of town, ang sugarfree, nag pa block off ng gigs dahil manonood yata ( or umiwas na langawin). ang tanong ko sa mga lawyers, magkano ba aabutin ng bayad kung bugbugin ko si konde? ilaw araw ba ako sa kulungan. ayoko na ng intelectualisayson nyo mga ipokrito, upakan ko na lang si konde pagtapos ng concert. tamang albert camus. me too! i really love eheads until now! natuto akong tumipa ng gitara kasi naging inspirasyon ko sila. Their songs are really great, lahat ng meyembro me kanya kanyang talento. mga musically inclined talaga cla. yun lang sana kung mag endorse man cla or mag promote ng isang produkto sana yung me worth na produkto, yung di nakakasira ng kalusugan at very helful. enweys! eheads rocks pa rin! solid!
ang sakin lng wala akong paki alam ke marketing strats lng to ng malalaking kumpanya ang mahalaga makita mo cla onstage
like the good old days..pare this concert would never suck as long as malicious minds are not trying to drill holes on it..eh ano kung pubclicity eh ano kung pera pera..walang pakialam ang mga tao dun..musika ng eraserheads ang pinaguusapan dito..their legacy..na kahit cno pang banda dito sa pinas there could only be one " astig opm band bulong bulungan na kahit saan..kasi isa lng ang ibig sabihin sabik ang mga tao..at tumanim sa pusot isipan ng mga pinoy ang musika nila...sa bagay walang masama kung mag lalabas ng saloobin ..dito lalo nat blog site to..we are free to express kahit ano man..hindi natin hawak ang utak ng bawat isa..pero sana wag tayong maging ipokrito para sabihin na "pwe hindi ako mag eenjoy sa concert na yan kasi hindi na yan yung dating eheads..eh pohta cno pala yung mga mag coconcert sa CCP this august? dummies? naka prostetics para mag mukang ely, buddy, marcus, and raimund?...kung hindi ka man manonood ng concert na to ipokrito ka para hindi ito i research sa youtube or makibalita samga taong nakapanood..habang ikaw naman ay namimilipit sa panghihinayang...na shet sana nanonood din ako...yun lng po... peace po tau... i'm in the middle of #2 & #3's point of views...for one #3 is right that it wont matter with most of the fans to go and watch the concert that they've long been waiting for to happen...siguro kahit ako, if i'm there, i will come to watch as well irregardless of the motive or whatever...but then, #2 has a good point din...which turns to EHeads decision naman...it's basically up to them really to do this or not...ang tao naman susunod lang din eh, kung walang concert na mangyayari, walang panunuorin, but we will still keep on waiting...i'm sure sobrang talino ang mga to...kanyo nga Kuya Carlos, they've moved on with their lives after they separated...pamilyado na sila ngayon...and if doing this just in case your presumptions are true, they will definitely think about it, may mga anak na sila and im so sure aware sila sa epekto ng sigarilyo....
hopefully, things will turn out for the satifaction of everybody...EHeads are EHeads...kahit anong mangyari...kahit matagalan pa siguro ang totoong reunion, fans will always be around to wait... Eheads forever! my point is not so much that it’s a cigarette company that’s behind this concert — it is that the eheads are apparently being used by marlboro to go around the law. if there were no such law that bans promotions of cigarettes, i probably wouldn’t care if ely buendia became the new marlboro man. the intent of the law is to protect people, particularly young people, from smoking. and marlboro is using these guys — who are not even, accordingly, on speaking terms (!) — to circumvent the purpose of this law. and for what?
i always thought that the eheads are decent, responsible people. musicians often debate among themselves how not to sell themselves out musically. but this — this is worse than selling out. again, marlboro is exploiting the popularity of the eraserheads to hawk its deadly product. so you see, those behind this reunion concert were not doing it for or because of the music. this concert has nothing to do with the music of the eheads; it has everything to do with shrewdly deceiving the public. alas, the eheads just sold their soul for 10 million, allowing marlboro to perpetrate this deception. sure na bang marlboro ang sponsor?..kung hindi po ba babawiin mo tong why the blahblah sucks..hmmm...
super sikat ka na ah... You have a very good point, Mr. Conde. I am an avid Eheads fan too. I was reluctant at first to register in the Marlboro website and now I decided not to do it at all.
I think they should patch things up between them first before they hit the stage again. kaya nga.
pero, siguro. in desperate need na talaga ung eheads. siguro naubusan ng choice. bwiset na yosi yan. Its nice to know that tsismis pa lang ng reunion nila dami na excited... ganun lang sila talaga hinanap ng tao... sa dami ng banda na nag labasan... at sila mismo may kanya kanyang banda... still ung legacy nila naiwan at hinanap... now yung reunion nila para sa mga kabataan na di nakaranas ng eraserheadsmania... kaya sa mga kaedad ko na nakaranas ng eraserheads... kung ako nga lang may pera ako na lang nag offer sa kanila ng reunion eh... so i know they just want an enclosure sa kanilang disbandment... and this is the right time... kesa naman mga 50 na sila tsaka pa sila mag last reunion di ba?? hehehe... lets give them one night they will cherish din for the rest of their life!!! an ultraelectromagnetic appreciation for the guys who inspired us and made us proud to be pinoy!!!
Nabasaa nyo ba FHM july issue or june siguro un. Featured si Marcus at di raw nya nagus2han ang ginawa ng mga bagong banda ngyon na Eheads revival. Kung hndi ako nagkakamali, ginamit nya ang salitang: PANGET para sa revivals ng kanta nila.
Kya hndi nmn siguro dahil 10M kumbakit sila pumayag na mag reunion concert. Wala nman masama sa concert at na mgkaron sila ng yosi na sponsor. Ang manunuod naman, ppunta ng concert para manuod at makinig sa same old Eheads hindi para bumili at himithit Marlboro at Philip habang nasa concert. Sa taas ng petrolyo ngyon, hndi na siguro maengganyo ung mga non-smokers na manigarilyo. Pang diaper na un. >>CHILL alam mo mr. caloy conde, kung iisipin mo, nakikisakay ka lang din sa events na to, i dont know kung isa ka sa mga detractors o nagiisang detractor ng concert na to, if your howling na marlboro is circumventing the law para magkaroon ng promotion ang products nila since bawal na sila mag promote, who are you to say its unethical or illegal?moralist ka ba?lawyer? by putting ur name under this article you are making yourself popular using ur intellect as the basis of your self-righteous attitude and deduction that fans are fanatics, and this concert is pointless?hindi ba ganun ang tingin mo?the way you assert yourself, mukang hindi ka fan?eheads is known for their musical genius, their songs, and the way i look at it, many of their concerts dati ay sponsored, nung nasa UP pa ko, a sorority or a frat sponsored them, now if i use your mentality, so ang eheads pala supports this groups?nagpagamit cla?how about ung chippy commercial?nagpagamit din cla?at lahat ng mga bata ngaun pati ikaw tumitira ng calories na walang nutritional content?ung burger machine commercial nila?so they support fastfood stuffs kaya lahat ng mga bata ngaun obese, how about other personalities like rico blanco na naging designer at model ng human, so nagiging materialistc ang mga bata ngaun gusto lang nila ung mga top of the line fashion, aksaya sa pera....ayun un using ur twisted reasons... music industry is a business, gumagawa ng albums ang musicians for para sa music, and para me ipakain sila sa family nila, and its the same with you, you wrote this article para gumawa ng commotion, mapansin ka in short for your personal gains, you are using the eheads concert circumventing the world wide web (that is using ur mentality) but this is a democratic country, basta hindi unethical, hindi illegal, then go ahead with it, mag concert na for the fans, magsulat ka to detract, but we are not stupid. lahat ng concerts me sponsors, me production outfit, kelangan ng budget, nagkataon lang ng cigarette company ang nagsponsor kasi they need promotion, im not a smoker, at alam ko me relative kang smoker, ask them kung napilitan silang magsigarilyo ng isang ad campaign or talagang gusto lang nila kahit na alam nilang it can kill. kung galit na galit ka nag pagamit ang eheads magalit ka din sa mga taong maliliit na naglalako sa kalye sa gitna ng araw at nagbebenta ng sigarilyo para kumita at me ipakain sa naghihirap nilang pamilya.omg. nalulungkot ako.malamang hindi ka taga UP. malamang hindi ka eheads fan, asan ka nung early 90's?isa ka siguro sa mga detractors ng mga songs nila dati.
Pare, taga UP ako, and proud to be gaya ng lahat ng mga Isko't Iska. Pero agree ako kay Carlos. Lahat nga ng events ay may sponsors, pero sa kaso na ito, bakit Marlboro ang kinuha nilang sponsor? Wala na bang ibang pwede?
Marami nang mga pananaliksik na nagpapatunay na ang anumang promotion o advertisement ng sigarilyo ay para mang-akit ng mga tao para manigarilyo, lalo na ang mga kabataan. Inaamin nga ng Philip Morris sa sarili nilang mga documento na ito ang dahilan kung bakit sila gumagastos ng limpak-limpak na salapi (bilyones pa nga) sa advertising at promotion: para makaakit ng mga kabataan na manigarilyo. "Basta hindi unethical o hindi illegal, go ahead..." E, paano po iyan? Depending on your point of view, this could be deemed unethical. And according to Philippine law (RA9211), this is definitely illegal! At di po pareho ang paghambing ng Eheads sa mga dukha nating mga kababayan na nagbebenta ng sigarilyo para mabuhay. Masyado na bang naghihirap ang Eheads na di nila matanggihan ang pera ng Marlboro? Sa katunayan, galit ako sa mga kompanya ng tabako dahil sila ang nagpapahirap sa marami nating mga kababayan. Karamihan ng mga naninigarilyo sa Pilipinas ay mahihirap, at imbes na gastusin sa pagkain, kalusugan, o edukasyon at iba pang pangangailangan ang kanilang mga maliit na kinikita, ginagastos sa sigarilyo. Paano pa kung nagkasakit sa paninigarilyo ang ama o ina ng tahanan? Hindi sila makakatrabaho, at hindi sila makakabili ng panggamot. Kawawa naman ang kanilang pamilya. Sinasabi pa ng mga kumpanya na nakikinabang raw ang mga magsasaka ng tabako, pero hindi totoo iyon ayon sa mga magsasakang nakausap ko. Walang magsasaka ng tabako na yumaman kahit kailan, at madalas, baon sila sa utang sa kanilang pagsasaka. actually, kung wala lang batas na nagbabawal ng promotions ng sigarilyo, wala naman akong problema sa reunion concert. the thing that got me was that it is obvious marlboro is circumventing the law and its intent, and is using eraserheads to do it. if there wasn’t such a law, wala namang problema. kesehodang ang sponsor ng concert e albatross (yong pampabango ng kubeta), basta malinaw na sponsor at basta malinaw na hindi tayo ginagago ng sponsor. saan ka ba naman makakakita ng reunion concert na ang mga band members ay di nga bati, at malinaw na kaya lang sila pumayag ay dahil sa pera? so malinaw na ginagamit ng marlboro ang popularidad nila para ibenta ang produkto nito.
i guess my point is, ano ba ang motibo ng eheads sa reunion concert na to? kung para buhayin muli ang saya, aba e di masaya! pipila ako the day before pa! pero kung tutugtog lang sila ng 45 minutes at malamang di pa mag-iimikan sina ely at ang tatlong iba pa, e sino ba ang ginagago nila? di ba tayo rin? siyempre, tayong mga eheads fans, gusto talaga natin silang makitang tumugtog uli (sino ba ayaw?). pero sana walang gagohan. Matthew 22:21
"Give to Caesar what is Caesar's ... " Ibigay sa SPONSOR ang ADVERTISEMENT/MARKETING na gusto nila... Ibigay sa EHEADS ang TALENT FEES na para sa kanila... At Higit sa lahat, ibigay sa mga SOLID FANS ang REUNION CONCERT na matagal ng hinihintay... wala naman problema dun di ba? wala namang naaagrabyado.Lahat naman makikinabang sa bawat isa. GIVE & TAKE lang naman yan. And 'di ko lang ma-TAKE eh yung mga bloggers na nakikisawsaw sa isyu. Mga PARASITES!!! isa ka pa. mahina din ang signal sa inyo? kalinaw-linaw ng sinabi ko, di niyo talaga ma-gets: gigagago ng marlboro ang publiko at ang intensiyon ng batas. yon ang opinyon ko. ang masaklap, nagpagamit ang eheads sa panggagago na to.
kung talagang wala kayong pakialam, e di magsabit na lang kayo ng alarm clock sa leeg niyo para sa aug. 30. magsuot na rin kayo ng diapers para di na kayo magpunta ng CR (kasi di ba magsuper-excited ang tao, ihi daw ng ihi?). mag-enjoy na lang kasi kayo. pinapansin niyo pa kasi ako e. ayan, sumisikat na nga raw ako. hay. tagalog na yan ha? Sa totoo lang,ito ang pinaka-nakakahiyang sagot ng Isko na narinig ko. Pasalamat ka at hindi kita naging estudyante at hindi kita binigyan ng dismissal. Huwag mo banggitin ang UP para ipamukha lamang ang credibilidad at apog mo sa iba. Napakasimple ng artikulo ni Conde at hindi ninyo ito maiintidihan. Nagbubukas lamang siya ng panibagong perspective tungkol sa pagbabali ng batas ng isang kumpanya. Kung totoong taga-UP ka, dapat open minded ka sa mga ganitong perspekto. Though the title would seem to be insulting for a hardcore fan like you, read the content carefully and absorb its message. If you don't get this article's theme, it's a big question that you passed UP.
PS Umasta na may pagpapahalaga sa bayan (hal. paggalang sa ating konstitusyon)tulad ng iyong pagyayabang na isa kang Iskolar ng Bayan. Isa pa, hindi rin ako lawyer ni Mr. Conde. Isa akong college professor. pareng ulysses, lawyer ka ba? kung illegal un, why is it pushing through?
hindi ko hinambing ang eheads sa mga nagbebenta ng sigarilyo, ginamit ko ang style ni mr carlos conde, sa pag justify sa paghire ng eheads ng isang cigarette sa isang concert, just like everybody else, sa paggamit ng mga company sa musician, paggamit ng isang grupo sa mga musicians parang paggamit ng isang pulitiko sa isang artista, paggamit ng meralco ke judy ann paggamit ng mga fastfoods ke aga, sharon. pagamit ng beer sa mga sexy na babae,paggamit ng junkfoods sa artista, phone companies at telecommunications sa artist, oil companies at lahat na ng elitistang mayayaman etc saka hindi eheads ang kumuha ng sponsor, ung sigarilyo ung nag tap sa eheads. anyway, with respect to mr carlos conde he is a journalist, his job is to write, and create a reaction or comments to his readers, and hes good at it, i dont mean to offend anybody and im sorry kung me naoffend. but still cigarette has nicotine. its addicting, kahit ung mga bata sa tabi makakabili ng yosi sa tabi tabi. and sila ang dahilan ng reunion concert ng eheads... kung talagang me malasakit ang gobyeno i ban na lang ang smoking....hindi ba? baka magalit c fvr. i will be there for the music not for the smoke. i will be there to relive my youth not for the marlboro. i will be there because this would be the last time that they will be seen together to play their songs, not to be addicted to nicotine. peace. pareng perry, saludo ako sa mga taga-UP'ng kagaya mo. proud na proud sa pinanggalingang school at walang pakundangang ibinabalibag ang affiliation na ito sa mga argumento.
pero for somebody na taga-UP (using your logic), medyo tagilid ka, bok. wala naman akong pakialam kung sino ang sponsor ng concert -- as i said, kahit pampabango pa ng kubeta yan. ang point ko lang naman, malinaw na ginogoyo ng marlboro ang mga tao by sponsoring this event. malinaw na iniinsulto ng marlboro ang batas at, more important, ang intention ng batas na ito. ang isa pang punto ko, nakakalungkot na ang eheads ay nagpapagamit sa marlboro para sa panggagagong ito. o baka na-overestimate ko lang ang kakayahan ng mga fans ng eheads (marami taga-UP, kagaya mo) na makita ang isang hayagang panggagago? actually di mo na-overestimate ang mga fans kundi na-UNDERESTIMATE mo sila. 'Di naman porket manonood sila ng concert eh bibili na rin sila ng YOSI na produkto ng sponsor. Ang mga fans walang pakialam kahit sino pang sponsor yan, sabi mo nga kahit pa pabango sa kubeta yan... ERASERHEADS lang ang sinusuportahan nila, so wala silang guilt na ginagago lang sila...
Kung feeling mo ginagago ka ng sponsor, problema mo yun... actually, jeff, mukhang ang pinoy mahina talaga ang radar pag gagohan na. ginago tayo ng mga politiko sa election, pero parang wala lang nangyari. si gma andyan pa rin. so medyo di na ako nagtataka kung di napapansin ng mga ejerks (with apologies to chikoy pura) na kagaya mo ang panggagago sa kanila (o ayaw lang aminin???).
tsaka, hoy, di lang eheads ang magaling tumugtog. (baka kasi masyado na kayong nahuhumaling sa eheads na disbanded na naman at malabong mabuo muli). bumili naman kayo ng album ng sugarfree o ng up dharma down. o di kaya ni april boy, na maraming nagsasabi ay mas magaling ang pinoy touch kaysa sa eheads. batas? sino ba ang nag iimplement ng batas?gobyerno hindi ba?san kumukuha ng pondo ang gobyerno?hindi ba limpak limpak galing sa vat ng sigarilyo? kung hayagang me malasakit ang gobyerno sa health ng mga tao bakit hindi na lang iban ang sigarilyo sa pilipinas, na siyang punot dulo ng reunion ng eheads na concert na ito (so inamin mo rin na nagpapagamit ang eheads sa marlboro, isama mo na si manong na nagbebenta ng sigarilyo sa kanto) hindi kaya kasi malaking porsiyento ng vat ang nanggaling sa sigarilyo.
hindi ko binalibag sayo kung saan eskwelehan ako nanggaling, basahin mo ule ung comment ko. youre a journalist, trabaho mo magsulat, sige magsulat ka..sulat at sulat at sulat. at ngangako ako na hindi lang ako ang nakakaramdam ng sentimyentong ito sa article mo. mabuhay ka. you know guys, some of you really misunderstood the point here.
dont worry,it'll push through! just be 'mature' guys! whats the point? the point na sumisikat na tong conde na to at nakikiride sa kasikatan ng ERASERHEADS. the point na sinabi niyang kagaguhan lang ang concert na to, refer to his comments above.
mas maraming hits ng site na to mas ok para sa conde na to at mas marami siyang pera... the point of this concert is fun and living your 6 year dream, wag ka na mag analyze, wag ka na mag isip. at wag ng patulang tong article na to.kagaguhan. idemanda nyo ang Eheads if illegal ang pagkuha nila ng sigarilyo as sponsor at kayo nalang magsponsor..mamma mia!
hey pare, famous ka na!
ang swerte mo.. famous ka na sa pagiging makitid ang utak. are you really a writer? coz i think, a writer writes based on facts.. writes comments based on facts.. complains based on facts. now, are you aware that the spreading news of the reunion originated from rumors? and rumors may or may not be true.. one ehead himself said, "a lot of the rumors are not true".. kung ganun, kawawa ka naman, ginigisa mo sarili mo. Marlboro may not be involved in this 'history in the making'... and at the end, you find yourself with this non-sense blog, only to realize that you are wrong.. a journalist writes based on facts, genuine information. not just of rumors. basic things learned from high school. i would symphatize with you if you had written this at the time that all of the world knows that Marbolo is sponsoring the event, and is breaking the law. but i would not care.. i would thank them for bringing the eheads together again. after all, it is the music the people appreciates. not smoking cigarettes. opinions matter. non-sense opinions, don't. sorry to disappoint you, bay, pero dugay na ko famous. as in!!!!
Carlos Conde: Philippine correspondent for the New York Times and the Washington Post
ah? talaga? makes us wonder why you wrote this prematurely, and based on rumors. brag it on.
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naguguluhan ako mr conde, kelan mo masasabi na ang isang tao mukhang pera?... c dolphy binabayaran for advertising hotdog pero ung hotdog diba masama rin sa health??? does it make dolphy mukang pera din? at nanggagago?... ang mga painter sobrang mahal kung maningil ng gawa nila mukha din ba sila pera?... ikaw binabayaran ka para magsulat pero sinasabi nyong mga manunulat na nagsusulat kayo para sa mga tao bakit kelangan my bayad pa s inyo? mukha din b kayo pera? at nanggago?
...just asking lang naguguluhan kasi ako pano naging mukhang pera eheads about this reunion, some say they're sell outs, and will reunite just because of the money. some say they're heroes, because of their legacy.
but for me, I'd say "just listen to the music, darnit!" tama na, dumadami na hits ni caloy conde, masyado na siyang yumayaman.
tingnan no ung smile nia sa taas... there's something fishy about it... i get it, ayaw mo sa marlboro, ayaw mo na rin kina ely kasi nagpagamit sila, at ayaw mo ring pumunta sa concert, ginagamit lang ng marlboro ang eheads...tulad ng paggamit ni GMA sa gobyerno para magpayaman...bat di mo tirahin ang gobyerno? tirahin mo na rin ang mens magazines at health reproduction act ng mga kongresista ill be willing to wait for that me tanong lang ako. pakisagot 1. "...because I was planning to collect all their albums and give them as gifts to my sons years from now..." panu mo mabibigay sa anak mo un. kung hindi na nagpupublish ang bmg ng cd's nila? so kung meron ka naman, bat hindi mo sinabi na "...planning to give my all my eheads album..." 2. nakapag-organize ka na ba ng concert?alam mo ba ang mechanics ng pag-organize nito?ang alam mo lang ba sa music industry gumawa at mag perform ng kanta? 3. "like millions of Filipinos, I am an Eraserheads fanatic. No other Filipino band had such a musical impact on me." do you know the meaning of fanatic? fanatic- A person marked or motivated by an extreme, UNREASONING enthusiasm, as for a cause. 3. so are you an eraserheads fanatic? 4. how much do you earn sa pag post nitong article sa iba't ibang blog sites? 5. have you written on international papers? because you do not know how to write a position paper. 6. ok so blog to, so you can write anything under the sun na walang pakundangan and respect to icons of OPM na sasabihin mong KAGAGUHAN tong concert na ito? 7. sa bawat hits ng article mo, me nakukuha ka bang royalty o commision? 8. why am i wasting time on arguing to a narrow minded person such as you? 9. have you seen a cigarette pack lately?nakita mo ba kung gaano kalaki ung government warning? ..it can kill you... bat hindi ka na lang magsulat about the phillip morris company and their schemes?why trash the very existence of this eheads reunion? 10. magkano binayad sa yo ng marlboro to write this article? i love caloy conde hep hep hooray!!!!! susme, ang dami sa inyo ang nagsasabi na napaka-serious ko't lahat. samantalang isang blog post ko lang about sa eraserheads, di kayo magkandaugaga sa pag-post ng mga comment niyo. ang ibang comments nga, napakapersonal na. (kala ko pa naman, medyo discerning ang mga fans ng eheads.)
ang punto ko lang naman, mga dre, ay ito: ginagamit ng marlboro ang eheads. (hindi pa nga dahil cigarette company sila kundi dahil binabastos nila ang intention ng batas against promotions of their product. opinyon ko lang naman ito.) i'm sure may rason ang eheads kung bakit sila nagpapagamit. pero masama bang ilahad ko sa mundo ang misgiving ko about it? kayo naman... love ko pa rin naman ang eheads. at sa mga nagtataka kung who the hell am i (may nagtanong pa kung nakapagsulat na ba ako sa mga international publication, as if to say wala akong K na magblog about it kung di ako nakapagsulat for foreign pubs hehe), aba e mag-google naman kayo. it will really break my heart if the concert will not push through, just like when i learned that e-heads broke-up. i love e-heads
eraserheads lang ang bandang pinoy na na-appreciate ko nang husto...
kumpleto ko ang cassettes nila mula ultraelectromagneticpop! hanggang carbon stereoxide; maging ang fruitcake advanced release at book meron ako... lahat ng kanta nila may mp3 ako at lahat ito ay nasa sd card ng phone ko... sila ang dahilan kung bakit natuto ako mag-gitara at "ang huling el bimbo" ang unang kantang nabuo ko... pero... sa lalim ng pinag-ugatan ng break up nila, hindi ako naniniwala kay ely na hindi pera ang dahilan ng reunion nila kundi ang mga fans... ilang taon siyang umiwas pag-usapan ang eraserheads, tapos bigla-bigla for the fans kaya sila magre-reunion? pasensya na, ely... pero sa puntong ito parang ang hirap mong paniwalaan... sana lang pagdating ng concert ninyo, ang magpe-perform ay ang eraserheads, at hindi sina ely, marcus, buddy at raimund na nasa isang stage lang... personally, i don't care about marlboro. i'm gonna watch that concert because of the eraserheads, because i want to see them again, not to support marlboro (or any other cigarette brand). strategy nila yun eh. walang masama dun. kailangan talaga nila magisip ng ganun. i'm not defending them (at hindi din ako galit). i'm just saying pupunta ako dun sa event not to watch these marlboro promo boys that you call. they're celebrities and celebrities are "used" (but paid) by ad companies to endorse their clients' products. so marlboro may have huge marketing points by now. i don't care. i'm not even a smoker but i still registered to be part of the red list. after the concert, i still won't buy marlboro (or philip morris) products. kanya-kanya lang yan eh (kaya i respect your opinion). so in the end, walang nawala sakin (as long as itutuloy nila yung concert). nag-enjoy pako! di pa din naman ako magyoyosi just because marlboro reunited the eraserheads.
peace! ely just went on GMA television tonight saying that the concert will push through and that it will be free to the public (provided 18 and above lang). it's free because marlboro is sponsoring it, although ely didn't even have the courtesy to divulge marlboro as the sponsor. more importantly, he didn't even say why, for the life of me, it's free. strictly speaking, hindi reunion concert ang mangyayari kundi isang sponsored performance na walang pinag-iba sa mga chicks na backup dancers sa wowowee na sumasayaw na suot-suot ang mga logo ng Pau liniment.
in effect, the eheads will star in a 45-minute-long promotional performance, paid for not by their loyal fans but by a cigarette company who has found a way to make a fool out of all of us. pero sabi niyo nga, wala kayong pakialam, basta tumugtog lang sila. ok lang kahit ginagago na tayo basta, ika nga, rakenrol! oh and by the way, on august 30, hope you have fun listening to your eheads CDs while we have fun at the concert, and while the four promo boys you mentioned enjoy their talent fees. lahat kami masaya!
at tsaka congrats nga pala! like marlboro, sikat ka na din! di mo ba alam, may viral marketing na rin kung san-san para lang basahin tong article mo. wais! just like marlboro! (hindi pa din ako galit. in fact, natatawa lang ako...your article is funny eh! love it!) mkbm, tagal na ako sikat, di mo lang alam.
somebody (leMule) posted this comment on pinoypress.net. and it just made me smile.
== the kids who were babies in the ’90s are the ones who are so excited by this hype having missed the whole scene. but us who were actually there aren’t really that affected by this news. we’ve moved on. the kids may not know it, but they may now be in the perfect set up for the BIGGEST PRANK in Pinoy rock history Akala ko pa naman may issue about eheads members kaya the concert sucks, ni hindi ko nga alam na sponsor pala ng Marlboro yung event.
I believe all those 'kyaw kyaw' ng writer is also "sponsored" by Marlboro. Kasi logically thinking, bad advertisement makes an "issue" and the goal is pasikatin i-advertise ang Marlboro, and this writer did it! Magkano naman ang sa iyo Carlos? LOL gigolo, tagal ng sikat ang marlboro, baka di mo lang alam.
Masyado ka naman defensive caloy, HALATANG GUILTY! hahahaha!
I'm trying to understand what you said. 5% ... 25% ... 75% ... 100% ---- NOT FOUND!!!! ---- Nde ko din na gets sinabi mo >.< FYI ang yosi ko Marlboro mismo. yun naman pala eh! if you work for marlboro, then good for you. seriously. if you do work for them, good job.
dapat pala ang sinabi ko, you're just like the eraserheads, hindi marlboro. "I will declare here that, perhaps for the first time, the Eheads, in agreeing to do this reunion concert, did something really stupid, if not downright unethical." oh, i'd like to apologize pala kung inakala kong di ka sikat. sikat ka na pala. ngayon ko lang kasi narinig name mo eh. peace ha! huling-huli nako sa balita. kailangan pa tuloy mag-google. tsk tsk tsk... "mkbm, tagal na ako sikat, di mo lang alam." sikat...pero di alam...ahhhh...pwede pala yun...okay. yung lolo ko 50 years nang nagyoyosi pero buhay pa rin. andami kasing bawal sa earth...
most of the hot heads here could be those who missed the 90s era.
for us, we've moved on. we'll leave you the ashes of the cigars that we've burned! rakenrol! You're right keith everyone has moved on... Ely has a new band now, Pupil. Raimund is doing great with Sandwhich, Buddy is now part of The Dawn and Marcus has a new band named Marcus Highway, (if I'm not mistaken).
It will be a great treat for all the fans if they would reunite for even just a night, and hopefully this reunion would bridge the gap of the former members. ...and to Sir Caloy, you can't really please everyone, but you know I understand your point. I actually admire you're courage for exposing issues like this...and I hope you do not work for Marlboro, like what the others are telling. thanks, darlene. that bit about working for marlboro -- some of these ejerks simply can't sense when they're being mocked.
"ang isa pang punto ko, nakakalungkot na ang eheads ay nagpapagamit sa marlboro para sa panggagagong ito."
"o baka na-overestimate ko lang ang kakayahan ng mga fans ng eheads na makita ang isang hayagang panggagago?" CARLOS CONDE its not about the writer, its about what he writes its not the band, its their music its not the brand, its the product its not the ad promo, its the buyer its not about you, its about them game! tama na!! sikat na tong gunggong na writer/blogger/journalist na to tiningnan ko name mo sa net. you are an insignificant BS. saan ang profile mo?credentials?saan please write something important. siguro gay marriage baka may alam ka dun wawa naman ako.
pero mahina talaga signal... and tama si keith: maybe you ejerks are behaving like this because you missed the eheads era and are hankering for an experience that we had all enjoyed. as to my credentials, baka ang computer mo naka-default lang sa friendster/myspace/multiply tsaka mga porn sites kaya nung nag-search ka about me, alaws. tsk.tsk. nga pala, naalala ko lang. si ely, sa interview niya sa gma 7 kagabi, hayagan na rin ang panggagagong ginawa sa mga eheads fans. sabi niya, makakakuha lang daw ng ticket sa concert pag nagregister ka online at tsaka dapat daw 18 and above lang. sabi niya, this is "for security reasons." ano tingin ni ely sa publiko, bale? kaya above 18 ay dahil marlboro ang sponsor. ang gago, di niya masabi ng diretso. anong "security"?
heto pa. sabi niya, kaya daw para sila parang nag-aaway ay dahil di daw sila nag-uusap the past six years. hoy, mga diehard ejerks, you think this is true? so, ganito na: gagohan na kung gagohan. pero enjoy pa rin tayo, right. rakenrol pa rin! (with apologies to manix abrera.) Oppinions like in this article may be right in some ways... but people who realy love the band would realy love to hear the songs they used to sang along with as they watch the band perform live...
For me... a big fan... rather enjoy the big reunion rather than saying things that might not give the band another change that they are in fact the Best there is, the Best there was and the Best there will ever will be... Hope that during the concert no one gets hurt because of some "Engot na Papansin na Mang-gugulo" Pls. just enjoy guys... CARLOS CONDE HAHAHA WALANG MAWAGA?
EH ANU NMN ANG PATUTUNGUHAN NG MGA USAPANG ITO?WALA. TUMUGTOG KA NALANG. la nga. nagkakasayahan lang naman tayo dito e. ewan ko kung bakit masyadong pikon tong mga ejerks na to.
caloycoy
ilang taon ka na ba? 5 beses ko lang nakita ung eheads tumugtog sa buong buhay ko. me girlfriend ka na? guys, ejerks, eheads fans
i am terribly sorry, dapat hindi ko sinulat itong blog na ito, ewan ko ba, nasaniban ako ng demonyo. anyway im sorry, etong reunion concert ng heads sobrang ok to.ok? now....suck me. kuya caloy pwde ka sa the buzz.kaya lang andun pa si kuya boy
Mr. Conde.. ur so amazing, i'm like your fucking No1 FAN!1 hoLy sh1t... di ko alam na SIKAT ka na pala noon pa... i should have read your name somewhere.. sorry hindi nasabi saken ni Brad na me isang sikat na tulad nya.. in your persona.
DUDE!!! u keep on saying the word PANGGAGAGO like many times. it's so strong a word Dude! wen i googled that word... it linked me to Your Name!! sabi ginagago mo ren mga katulad naming nagbabasa ng bLog mo!! oLe sh1t-- yOu GOt me on that One!! again.. i had admired u at first. it takes one BRAVE asshOle like you to write a sh1t like this. but for the life of me... despite some sensible points about multinational company (Marlboro) and fuckin brilliant their marketing strategies... personally attacking someone is morally UNETHICAL!! (personal opinion yan) sayang.. mukhang me pinag-aralan ka. i actually googled ur name.. me NUJP pa na nakaconnect doon. di ko na binasa.. kasi reading from this bLog.. u don't do justice being even linked to them in the first place. what you wrote about EHEADS (again EHEADS only and attacking them) ... doesn't make ur popularity (or soaring popularity) WORTH IT. Your reputation is being mocked (if there is one).. but people who can see the entire scene from a bigger point-of-view. ngayOn... sana u'll think twice bago ka gumamit ng word na panggagago. sabi nga tumingin ka muna sa bakuran mo. (and to Perry V. --- walang taga UP na ganito kakitid. in case he is, that's a real shame) tahan na mga bata.. tahan na.. hehe.. caloy, astig tong blog mo.. pero ngaun, kelangan mo ng bumawi sa mga readers ng blog mo, bigyan mo cla ng tissue para sa mga namumugto nilang mga mata.. kawawa nmn cla eh.. ge na pls.. hehe
i wish, pambihira, na masabi ko kaagad sa kanila na sorry na na-offend ko sila. pero ayoko e. i stand by what i wrote. kung di nila, matanggap ang opinyon ko, aba e, manigas na lahat ng ejerks.
at correction: when i use the term ejerks, i'm NOT referring to ALL eheads fans. doon lang sa mga nagcomment dito na napaka-mature mag-isip. kua conde!!tama ka advertisment hangad ng marl!!pero mas tama kming mga fans nila na mkita cla z iisang intablado natugtug masayang masaya n kmi mas msaya pa kung tlgang bubuuin n uli nla ang banda malay ntin pgtapos ng concert..wiks,months mg decide clang buuin uli ang banda at mg labas ng album nla db..simple lng nmn yan eh.kaw nrin nag sv magsaya edi mgsasaya kmi..mamrublema o manita edi mag-isa ka!!minsan kc lalo na pg ordinaryong pilipino(kagaya ko ewan ko ikaw??)d na pra isipin habang nsa concert or hindi ung mga pinagsasabi mu tungol z marl n y cla ngpapagamit etc..edi magsasaya nlng at i enjoy ang concert.tyka pwde b nmn d mgkikibuan ung 4 e magrerehersal pa kya cla..anu un 083008 n mismo cla mgkikita at kanya kanya nlng pkiramdaman kung anu gagawin!!!
from a commenter on pinoypress.net:
# Ligaya Says: July 24th, 2008 at 1:35 pm e The Eheads were classmates at UP. Kilala at napapanood ko na sila noong naguumpisa pa lang sila. Kaya halos maiyak ako sa tuwa nang malaman ko na magre-reunion concert sila. Nag-internet kaagad ako para malaman kung paano makakakuha ng tickets. Yun pala kailangan kong magregister sa Marlboro list. So I tried. Marlboro must be copying how tickets were distributed at the now legendary Led Zeppelin O2 reunion concert in London last year. Fans worldwide were given the chance to register online. Randomly the computer picked the names and gave the tickets. Fair and simple. Sa Marlboro hindi. Sabi ng website nila, I have to be 18 daw to be eligible. (Yey, kasing-tanda ko ang Eheads–pwedeng-pwede!) Pero may tanong na kailangan sagutin, “What brand of cigarettes do you smoke?” I don’t smoke Ayaw ko ring magsinungaling. Kaya di ko sinagot. Dahil hindi ko sinagot, syempre hindi ako kasama sa list. Paano na? Dahil hindi ako naninigarilyo do ko na mapapanood ang reunion concert???? Di pala talaga “Para sa Masa” ang Eheads reunion concert. Para lang sa target audience ng Marlboro, para sa marketing purposes nila. Nakakalungkot. Maraming salamat Caloy sa article. this is precisely the point of my post. marlboro is laughing its way to the bank with all this.
having said that, consider this my last item here. kung di niyo pa rin ma-gets ang point ko after all that has been said here, good luck sa inyo. love ko pa rin ang MUSIC ng eheads, for whatever it's worth. This breaks my heart. Because much as I have prayed to see them perform again, this agreement of theirs has tarnished their memory. I am not going to the concert. I don't know what got into the head of Ely Buendia. No respect for the law.
kuya caloy tama po na last comment na kayo....yung iba dito...wala na sa lugar eh...
when i learned this morning from my friend na tuloy na nga ang concert, mixed emotions kuya, excited na hinayang kasi la ko dyan pinas eh, i would really want to watch, pero nalungkot din ako at the same time kasi talagang they fell on the trap... sige po...balitaan na lng siguro dito...i like youg blog now, actually first time ko to read yours and its nice to know you po thru this...and nice din for other people to react...kanya kanya ng opinin, kakatuwang basahin... ingat po kayo, mabuhay kayo! mabuhay ang Eheads! ciao! nakakalungkot lang dahil hindi pa nga nagsisimula ang concert may mga feedbacks nang ganito. Pero ika nga kanya kanya tayo nang opinion at paniniwala.
sa aking opinion hindi lang naman nila siguro gagawin ung concert nang dahil lang sa pageendorso nang sigarilyo. sana isipin rin naman natin na kung nami2ss din natin ang samahan noong tayo ay highschool malamang sila rin. nami2ss nilang gumawa nang musika at kung paano nakakaapekto ang musikang ito sa tao. sama isipin rin natin ung magandang intensyon nila, at un ay ang makapagpasaya nang tao. hindi ko masasabing im one of this people na sinasabi mo--> "maybe you ejerks are behaving like this because you missed the eheads era and are hankering for an experience that we had all enjoyed." sa aking opinion, sana tignan rin natin ang side nila bago tayo magsulat nang mapanghusgang artikulo. have a nice day! Whatever, strategies you have in conclusion that both Marlboro and Eheads are using, it clearly worked on you! Otherwise you wouldn't be THIS affected.. Eheads and Marlboro are both established names and they perfectly deserve to collaborate with each other.. As for you, eat my shorts!
it's just like when you're in love, u have so many reasons not to. but still in the end u just follow your heart. =)
sana. sana. puntahan ng ERASERHEADS ang lahat ng sulok ng PILIPINAS. sana. i love the eheads. i grew up listening to them and attending their concerts such as combonation and electric fun. pero is it just me or ang weird lang na of all sponsors na they're gonna do this reunion thingie for, marlboro pa? i mean, considering 3 of them don't smoke naman.. si buddy. si raimund, who we all know has asthma and of course si ely who scared us all when he had an attack. basta ang weird lang.. pero siyempre, bottomline is: it's still the eraserheads' reunion concert so kahit weird, i'm probably still gonna go.
WALA DIN PINAG IBA ITONG SI MANG CALOY SA IBANG KA BLOGGERS KO NA PRIMATIVE MAG ISIP..tsk tsk tsk
debate yata ito ng mga stupido.. mag sorry na lang kung naka offend,ano ba naman ang masama doon,ung minsang umamin sa kamalian,dito nga nasusukat ang pagkatao kapag marunong magpakumbaba,porke ba feeling well-known na kayo mang caloy ay di na rin kayo tatangap ng kamalian.. MALI NAMAN TALAGA KAYO EH!! KAYO PA NGA ANG NAGSISIMULA NG BAD EXAMPLE,pls watch your word.sa ibang blog di PIKON ANG AUTHOR KAPAG NABABATIKOS.opinion ng bawat isa ito dapat irespeto,di ito debate o pagalingan,ideas ito.accept it or not is not a big deal..RESPECT un lang naman diba? NYAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Natatawa ako... WAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Rakista ako, fan ng Eheads pero hndi nagyoyosi. Paano na sa registration? Kung GUSTO maraming PARAAN. Kung AYAW maraming DAHILAN. Dapat may get together para sa mga nag-comment d2. Hehehehe... khit cno sponsor i enjoy n lng ang grupo at ang mga awitin na ating nkgiliwan
anu't ano pa man ang mga nagsusulputang intriga sa eheads reunion concert, ang mahalaga makakapagbigay muli sila ng "huling el bimbo" sa mga sabik nilang fans katulad ko..hindi ako nagyo-yosi pero pabor ako sa ad campaign na ginawa ng marlboro. in fairness, magaling ang gimik nila diba?
paksheyt! kung ayaw nio manuod eh di wag! mukha ka namng ngyoyosi manong carlos tpos me pa sucks!sucks! ka pang nalalaman! duhhhh!
Why make a big Fuss about it, forget about guilt some promoters are doing back doors dealing to get over it. Is there a saint in entertainment business left. You can't stop people's habit if they want it its their choice.
I remember as a child in time of innocence, Apo hiking Society concert was big, there were booze and smokin' in front of kids. whatever happens, Eheads will still be my all-time fave band. The contribution and inspirations they brought count the most. whether they will do it or not and got used, their legacy will live on. They will entertain and provide inspiration even for the benefit of a bad advertising strategy. Fan like me will not discredit them, its the renewed INSPIRATION that they will brought back to us. WE MISS them, and one more time to live on with their legacy.
eheads is eheads.
pinasayaw tau sa kanilang huling elbimbo binusog ng fruitcake kinantahan ang masa (para sa masa) at iba pang mga awiting talaga naman nagiwan ng marka sa lahat ng mga humanga at nagmahal sa kanilang musika hehe what's the fuss, yeah right whats the fuss? i think it is only coming from Caloy and his stand on the product Philip Morris produces. Let it not worry you Caloy, its the Eraserheads the people will come for in this concert. have youe seen Manny Pacquiao's last fight? if you saw it on GMA 7, did u ever take notice of their thousands of ads? Or if you watched it on PPV, did people ever say annoying naman yang Smart logo sa canvas? they came to see the boxers and yung ads? passive images lang sa viewers.
nowadays more people and the youth are well aware of the effects of these products, aside from the fact that advertisements nowadays does not really sell and the only impact it has on people are their "one liners" we use in daily life as part of lingo fad. magaling magaling magaling! tsong yolac,,
elibs naman ako sayo kasi nasilip mo yung kagustuhan ng marlboro na they just using e-heads to promote their products,,,ganun talaga yolac kaya nga meron marketing ang isang company para mag-isip kung papano makakasurvive or how can they sell or promote their products...lets face the naturality na talagang ganun nga...magdadakdak ka man ng magdadakdak eh ala na talaga...besides maganda rin naman at nakapagisip sila na pagreunionin ang e-heads and you know i really thankful for that becoz im one of the fanatics of that band...para sakin makita at marinig ko uling tumugtog at umawit ang eraserheads ay ok na,,,...tama si ka jojo.. i hate to write this but i want you to know mr.caloy that you are unsymphatic,kamukha mo si MARTIN NIEVERA,,and i dont like him,,,,you both have the same style,,,ARROGANT!!
SORRY BUT YOU HAVE TO KNOW,ok? pwede ka pa naman sigurong bumawi,pangit kasi ng first impression mo eh,ASTIG KASI DATING MO,w/c is di pwede,aawayin kita. girl,
naman ito! ano ka ba! kamukha ba ni Martin yan? pambihira! ang eyebag nya pagkalaki laki, kapal ng labi, receding hairline though hawig sila sa lapad ng nose at sa ratrat ng mga sagot nya dito na nakaka-turn off, pareho sila outspoken. " (And there's no doubt that Marlboro would try to push its brand during the concert itself.)"
lets wait and see Caloy, i hope you are right. but what if you are wrong? "Not a few hinted that this is viral marketing at work." Marketing strategy, have to be creative and sorry you hate their guts. They are not the only group who are doing this, hello! Networking too is the name of the game nowadays Bad thing is everyone wants you to SUCK up your nuts. Good thing is you got a lot of hits. Dude its fun, next entry BRING IT ON were here to squeeeeze your lemon even harder... Ouch!!!
Do you like Metallica. I guess Im alone headbanging. Arudyosko.
Kawawa ka naman manong Conde. Nabugbog ka ng hindi ka-lebel. personally, medyo disgusted na ko sa nangyayari. i'd rather pay 5000 para manood ng concert nila dahil ako ay tunay na adiktus fan ng e-heads. at hindi rider lang na makikisawsaw dahil narinig nila na huling el bimbo ng paulit-ulit. medyo hipokrito lang ang nangyayari. hindi ko inaapi ang ihihirit ko. pero diba? may na-opera noon na member nila sa isang hospital sa may south. tapos ang sponsor marlboro na maganda sa ating katawan. wala lang. parang may mali. o sya... tataasan ko ang bayad sa tiket... 6000 na, 100 lang kasi yung ticket noong nanood ako sa eskwelahan namin nung grade six ako e. enjoy yun, puro first album songs ang tinugtog. #5 caloy conde on 2008-07-21 19:42
"again, marlboro is exploiting the popularity of the eraserheads to hawk its deadly product. so you see, those behind this reunion concert were not doing it for or because of the music. this concert has nothing to do with the music of the eheads; it has everything to do with shrewdly deceiving the public. alas, the eheads just sold their soul for 10 million, allowing marlboro to perpetrate this deception." Most advertisements are masked and to put it blatantly, it is an art of deception most of the time. Truth in advertising? It doesn't exists anymore. What have you to say about those skin whitening products? those promises of nice figures and facial changes by the beauty experts? Kris Aquino? Ruffa Gutierrez? Gabby Concepcion? endorsing whitening products? whereas dati na silang maputi! THAT is deception, in case you are unaware. "Strictly speaking, Marlboro didn't do anything illegal. It did not advertise anything. (In fact, on its website where you are supposed to register in order to get a ticket to the concert, there's no mention of the cigarette brand at all, except in the URL). It did not promote anything in the media by way of press releases or advertisements." Thats coming from the main blog, the article here. again, whats the fuss all about this? Actually, there's great disservice to the group Eheads with this article more than doing a disservice to the cigarette brand/group. Have you ever thought about it? Your mere mention of the brand has already given them some media mileage? Remember, bad or good publicity is still a publicity, and they the vultures will take it anyhow. At the same time you have put down a good talented Pinoy band. Its up to the people, most will come to see and hear their idol band, secondary na lang and passive notice ang maiuukol sa sponsor. " (And there's no doubt that Marlboro would try to push its brand during the concert itself.)"
We're getting 'presumptuous' and 'audacious' here i guess I will go to the concert, got my tickets and I don't give a damn who the sponsor is, I coming to see my idols. with due respect, i dont agree with u. i concur with ur observations thou that this is just a marketing gimmick for a cigarette brand but who cares.. i want to see them together maybe for the last time. just enjoy the music dude, grab a beer or ur girlfriend he he and then reminisce the gud old eraserheads days. dont be popish as the pope.
tsong yolac,
mahina na ata signal mo ahh... where are you????? i guess siguro nasa harapan you ng computer at nagreregister na to buy tickets and kitakits nalang tayo sa concert...me here pa sa thailand ha,,may ticket na me para manood ng concert ng e-heads,,,wag mo ng gawan kasi ng issue ang concert manood at makinig ka na lang... very very good blog.
now i am a fan. the way i see it no legal inhibition for tri-media advertising MARL DE BORO countrymen, no superduper marketing strategy no superduper marketing strategy, no reunion concert for GAGONG PLASTIC AT NAGPAPAGAMIT NA SI ELY, MARCUS RAIMUND AND BUDDY (words of wisdom from mahal na conde) no reunion concert for GAGONG PLASTIC AT NAGPAPAGAMIT NA SI ELY, MARCUS RAIMUND AND BUDDY (words of wisdom from mahal na conde), no viral marketing no viral marketing, no article for conde no article for conde, no hits, no irritating comments no hits, no money for conde no money, no honey or sonny no money, write another article, write an article about some titillating stuff, yeah money money but if you do have the most honest intention (aside from bitching the eheads, and what?!youre still a fan?oh you stabbed them with your killer awareness article, oh youre still a fan) of telling the people the systemic effects of this concert, can you not make a full article about MARL DE BORO and its COUNTRYMEN? of course you can (AS U ARE AN INTERNATIONAL SUPERSIKAT NA JOURNALIST), but it wont make much FUSS compared to this article using ELY MARCUS RAIMUND AND BUDDY. its the hits. no more no less. God is watching us from a distance God is watching us from a distance. God is watching us from a distance. Bye. maglalaba pa ko ng panty ng nanay ko. You write for Inquirer or at least there is connection, do you crimp and cringe at the sight of those sometimes full-page ads in your publication by the company whose product you so hate, abhor? But did it ever came across your mind you're getting paid by your company whose revenue partly comes from ads, and the cigarette manufacturer's payment is part of your company's income? If you're talking of being principled as to how Eraserheads should get paid and not by this evil-product producing company, then I guess you have to reconsider your stand, "being moral, upright and ethical", go and work for a group where these evil-product producing companies does not use your company’s services.
sa artikulo mong ito, mas malaki ang damage na nagawa mo sa paboritong banda ng bayan kaysa pagtuligsa mo sa dambuhalang pagawaan. Principles, principles, tsk tsk tsk can you not write an article thrashing only MARL DE BORO and ITS COUNTRYMEN, wag mo na isama ule ang eheads.
at kung nagsulat ka man, pakisulat naman ung name mo as the author para ipakitang matapang ka at makabayang journalist ng pilipinas at pang international. at kung nagsulat ka at hindi mo inindicate na ikaw ang author?bakit?natatakot ka?eh sisikat ka nun ah. magreply ka naman sa mga fans mo!!!!!!!!! please!? wag ka na langmanood, siguro wala kang pamasahe.... joke, anyway to each his own ika nga nila kaya ako manonood ako!!!
I'm in U.S. but in a heartbeat, pupunta ko dyan para manood ng concert ng eheads. Kaya lang, wala akong pamasahe pauwi. In fairness with the band, don't u think they deserve more... maybe marlboro is the only sponsor that can afford them. Kaya mo ba silang i-sponsor? I don't think so! They're the no.1 band in the history of pinas kaya they deserve more... money and respect that anyone could extend. Kung meron silang choice, bakit hindi? I think marlboro has a great idea bringing them together kasi no other sponsor have think about it before. It just happen, yosi kadiri sila but still, they gave them a chance to perform one more time. And its for the people. So, enjoy the band!
naiintindihan ko si carlos conde
naiintindihan ko ang fans ang di ko maintindihan bakit maraming plastic sa mundo. bagong warning sa sigarilyo goverment warning: eheads reunion can harm your children eheads reunion is addictive eheads reunion is dangerous to your health eheads reunion can kill WARNING: anything that doesnt kill you... instantly....makes you...... stranger......... i see you.. you dont see me ely read the book holy blood holy grail. read it. then read in between the lyrics of trip to jerusalem and spoliarium. then take a nap what do u see? well its better to see them live on stage...tlgang nag BOOM! tlga Eheads nun time nila..so its ok if they will try it again..
masyado nman tayo emosyonal
music na lang isipin, rock on, eh di wag bumili ng yosi problema ba un life is too short to make it so complicated harharharhar remember lang po arguing with a fool, proves there are two.
fans will light up or not EHeads concert or otherwise
individual choice na yan ng tao may "smarts" naman tayong lahat alam naman natin kung ok mag yosi, mag drugs etc. Philip Morris had the "balls" to do it kaya good or bad exposure sa kanila yun tayo na bahala kung anong lason gusto natin..kung gusto natin if you are truly a fan you will also include that thru this "supposed" reunion concert there's a spark of hope that they will reunite as friends (w/c is so impossible AFAIK).
to smoke or not to smoke. that is your choice. the author wants fire he gets it. RUMORS.....BLOGS......."BAGO MANIWALA, MAGISIP-ISIP KA MUNA, MARAMI ANG NAMAMATAY...........AT NAPAPAHIYA, SA MALING AKALA"
ganito talaga magadvertise ang mga cigarette companies. they organize concerts and give away their products there. and may mga raffle raffle pa dyan cgurado.
ang di natin alam, ang nabibiktima dito ay ang mga kabataan. minor de edad. yan ang tinatarget talaga ng marlboro. and what goes hand in hand with this promo are the small sari-sari stores, carinderias, street vendors, who sells it by a stick. which makes it a LOT easier for anyone, kahit minors, na bumili. Concert + easy/cheap buying abilities = success for marlboro = long-term effect on health. so... marlboro sucks... and all " the small sari-sari stores, carinderias, street vendors, who sells it by a stick" and the eraserheads too, so let us BAN SMOKING IN THE PHILIPPINES. but of course, our current governemnt breathes the VAT in and out of their alveoli,lets just ban the media advertisement, and put some VAT on cigarette, they can use it for the 2010 elections. so ban the government?if you are nuts. ok lets just ban the concert?right?and all the diseases caused by smoking like adenoCA, myocardial infarction, emphysema, pneumonia, oral CA, and the likes may go super down all time low and increased the life expectancy of the Filipino people.
and with just a blink in the eye, carlos conde changed the world. pero pero pero wala naman pumapansin sa kanya. mga punggok lang na walang magawa at nagsesearch ng details sa concert. ME PUMANSIN NA BA SAYONG MIYEMBRO NG EHEADS?
mapipigilan mo ba to? WALA DI BA?! HINDI DI BA?! awalawalawalawalawalawalawalawalawala!!!!! tigilan mo na yan caloy...mas mabuti pang ipagdasal mo kaming gustong pumunta sa konsyerto at magiging bata muli sa pagbalik sa alaala ng musika...bottomline d2, musika talaga...kung gusto mo,sabayan mo ng kilos protesta ung konsyerto,dun kau sa gilid...nakikisimpatiya kami sau,me katotohanan ang sinabi mo pero ano na ang LAYUNIN ng pagpunta namin,MUSIKA,hindi SIGARILYO,ISYU NG PANGAGAGO AT PANGAGAMIT SA E-HEADS,MARKETING STRATEGY NG MARLBORO O ANO PANG ISYU...ANG MAPAKINGGANG MULI,MAKITA SA IISANG ENTABLADO,SABAYAN ANG MGA KABISADONG LIRIKO NG KANTA MULA SA MGA HARI NG MUSIKANG PILIPINO,ANG ERASERHEADS...
sa mga gusto lang pumunta sa concert, ok lang yun. kaya lang, parang kinukunsinte natin itong mga ganitong strategy.
clearly, wala lang kayong pakealam kung anong masamang idudulot nito sa iba. common mentality nating mga pinoy yan. kaya hindi tayo umaasenso. kulang tayo sa pagmamahal sa kapwa, sa kapaligiran natin. nagpapagamit naman kayo sa philip morris na yan. masaya nga ang kahahantungan ng pagpunta mo. pero pakiusap mga kapatid, wag na tayong makisama dito. pag dating talaga sa mga ganitong usapin, napaka-mangmang pa natin. sana maging mature na ang mga pinoy... by the way, i think it's against the law to have celebrities advertise cigarette products. ewan ko lang kung meron nyan sa pinas. pero i know it's being implemented in other countries.
i bet these people who are going to the concert will bow to their marlboro sticks and thanking it dahil nakita na naman nila ang eheads. tapos kinabukasan magche-chain smoke at ngingiti, dahil naalala ang concert. "asttiiiiiggg" Edward,
the law will take effect soon in philippines. kaya nga both the sponsor and the sponsored are 'striking while the iron is hot' presumptuous naman yata yung last statement mo. di naman lahat ng pupunta roon ay marunong mag yosi. I just want to comment on some points. If the rumor is true that each of them received P10M just to do the reunion concert. Well why not ? even if it’s only P2M can you hesitate that offer? If you were on their shoes, would you grab the offer? If you won’t grab it well you must be kidding. With the current global economy going worst, with all those CD piracy, for all those corrupt officials, Do you think you can still say NO to a P2M or P10M offer? Well I doubt. Lets face reality, it’s all about money. Yes it’s true that Marlboro were just using Eraserheads just to promote their product, but then again who are the audience?
Basically those that are mature enough to know what’s right and wrong. Smoking is definitely not good for our health. I think Eraserheads are just being wise and at the same time deep inside they want to do this for their fans. They have commitments/gigs with their own bands, so doing a reunion concert for free is not realistic. I think they deserve the P10M or P2M talent fee. They have contributed a lot in our music industry. For me it’s unfair to call them like promo boys promoting Marlboro. http://animohosting.com/main/why-the-eraserheads-reunion-concert-sucks-article-of-mr-carlos-conde/ let's make it work for the state. apply high taxes for cigarettes!
MGA EMO TANG INA NYO LAHAT ITO PARA SA INYO...
Pare ko meron akong prublema Wag mong sabihing na naman In lab ako sa isang kolehiyala Hindo ko maintindihan Wag na nating idaan sa moboteng usapan Lalo lang madaragdagan ang sakit ng ulo at bilbil sa tiyan Anong sarap Kami'y naging magkaibigan Napuno ako ng pag-asa Yun pala haggang dun lang ang kaya Akala ko ay pwede pa (refrain) Masakit mang isipin kailangang tanggapin Kung kelan ka naging siryoso tsaka ka niya gagaguhin (chorus) O, diyos ko ano ba naman ito Di ba Tangina nagmukha akong tanga Pinaasa niya lang ako Lecheng pag-ibig to-o-o-oh O diyos ko ano ba naman ito Sabi niya ayaw niya munang magkasiyota Dehins ako naniwala Di nagtagal naging ganun na rin ang tema Kulang na lang ay sagot niya Bat ba ang labo niya Di ko mapinta Hanggang kelan maghihintay ako ay nabuburat na Pero minamahal ko siya-a-ha Di biro T.L. ako sa kanya Alam kong nababaduyan ka na sa mga sinasabi ko Pero sana naman ay maintindihan mo O pare ko meron ka bang maipapayo Kung wala ay okey lang Kailangan lang ay ang iyong pakikiramay Andito ka ay ayos na (Repeat refrain and chorus) ANO TAPOS NA? di naman Eheads Fans Emo kayo lang hiya kayo... my big reaction sa artikulong ito at:
DEDMA. So what? who the eff cares about Marlboro? I care about seeing the E-heads TOGETHER. AGAIN. PLAYING THEIR MUSIC. Geez. Thinking is good. But OVERTHINKING a freaking reunion concert sponsored by a cigarette company is just plain tacky. Get over yourself. Manood ka na. Kung ayaw mo, di wag. But it does not mean the reunion concert SUCKS. To Mr. Caloy Conde
So what if it's free? Does NOT paying for something undermine its essence? So you're bringing down the Eheads to the level of Wowowee dancers just because people need not pay for the concert? Whether or not the event is free, the performers are the same, the music the same. And that is the only thing that matters to the fans. You keep saying the masses are "ginagago". How? It's not like the masses will come out the loser in this. Based on the sentiments I've read, the fans and masses are fully aware that this is a sponsored gig. I don't think any of them gives a rat's ass who sponsors the concert. If anything, you're the one who's making a fool out of the fans -- you undermine them! You seem to have some beef that the only thing that matters to the fans is the music, the re-living the golden days. What is wrong with that? All the better, because it means that the fans are not "nagago" -- they are happy, despite the fact that it is free, despite the fact that it is sponsored. Will they derive this happines if the concert isn't conceived in the first place? They don't care about anything else. How are they "nagago"? You keep saying the Eheads are "ginagago" too. How? They get something they wouldn't have gotten otherwise, which is, based on local standards, a lot of money. I have personal knowledge that at least one of the Eheads members has been down in the dumps financially -- so this is a huge opportunity. Why let it pass? If I were the Eheads, why would I let pass the opportunity to better my state in life, to make the fans happy, to make history, for what? Tell me! Given all that's at stake, what compelling reason can you possibly give the Eheads not to do the concert? For some law that's supposedly being broken, which may not even be true? If someone feels that they'll be made a fool for going there, they have a choice not to go. If the fans are happy, the band is happy, the sponsor is happy, then no one's being made a fool. You're only a fool if you let yourself be one. EraserHead fan on 2008-07-27 21:04 (Reply)
You write for Inquirer or at least there is connection, do you crimp and cringe at the sight of those sometimes full-page ads in your publication by the company whose product you so hate, abhor? But did it ever came across your mind you're getting paid by your company whose revenue partly comes from ads, and the cigarette manufacturer's payment is part of your company's income? If you're talking of being principled as to how Eraserheads should get paid and not by this evil-product producing company, then I guess you have to reconsider your stand, "being moral, upright and ethical", go and work for a group where these evil-product producing companies does not use your company’s services. sa artikulo mong ito, mas malaki ang damage na nagawa mo sa paboritong banda ng bayan kaysa pagtuligsa mo sa dambuhalang pagawaan. Principles, principles, tsk tsk tsk thanks sana na-enlarge mo pa sa to several points bigger, hehehe
its a dog-eat-dog world out there, principles should not be questioned in the case of the band. they play the music their expected to play and they get paid. Eraserhead haven't done anything so why put a doubt on them. all we see in the write up are presumptions. and decimation of the band's credibility. ika nga ng isang sikat na filipino writer...
"kung ano ang lakas ng sigaw mo tuwing manonood ka ng laban sa uaap o ncaa, o kung ano man ang lakas ng hiyaw mo sa concert ng paborito mong banda wag mong iwawala yun sa pagtanda." This concert makes me feel like a teenager again. at alam ko yun din ang mararamdaman ng mga manonood nito especially if they experienced eheads during their teenage days. guys, u deserve an applause...
to mr. carlos conde, for writing a series of...let me say "anti cigarette campaign articles or blogs" which of course got started on the rumors of an eheads reunion concert.. to eheads fan, for standing up for their number 1 band to the legislative, for the banning of trimedia advertising for cigarette companies (they need to revise it) to the internet...for the constant flow of info and becoming a forum for people and to my father(APB), for explaining to me and assuring me that this concert will push through. he surely knows the law. and to the people who read conde's arguments (and my comments), stampeding in an outrage... "pag ginago mo ang ginagago, sinong gago?" "pag ginago mo, ang nanggagago, sinong gago?" "pag nagago ka?sinong gago?" basta hindi ako.eh kayo? HTM. tama lang ang punto ni caloy or carlos...wala ang essence ng reunion dito... nagsasama lang sila dahil sa pera... pera talaga... at hindi rin para sa fans ang concert ng eheads... ang reunion nagaganap lang kung nasasabik kayong makita ang isat isat... kina raimund at ely - sa palagay nyo kaya eh nanabik sila sa isat isat... HINDI!... kaya... isa na rin ako sa mga magsasabi na ang concert ng eraserheads ... sucks!
kanta na lang tayo...
i was born upside down i felt my grandma pull my feet on the ground they put a spoon in my mouth and everyone was shocked to hear me shout well i knew i couldn't take all the dog food that they make i'd just as soon as put myself on a stake and burn i saw it coming around (3x) and so i just, yeah, shook my head and walked away (sorry kung may maling lyrics) sinong next? Like the cigarette the Eheads are peddling in this concert, watching them perform again not as musicians but veritable promo boys for Marlboro will leave a bad taste in the mouth.
good good! true enough. they're doing this for money.. men! they dont need that... eheads has a solid fanbase here in the country,. natatakot lang silang patunayan yun kung magwowork ba o hindi kaya siguro they grabbed the "offer".. kahit siguro mag concert sila with a general admission fee of 5,000 dudumugin pa rin e.. maging successful man ang concert, question is.. in their heart, are they satisfied? i hope they will be. thinking they will be performing to an elite group of smokers and non-smokers who pretended to be smoking marlboro to get a ticket, i really hope they will . . . deep in their hearts and not only in their pockets hehehe!
what is this big hypocrisy about "doing things for the money?"
money, or not, fans have been clamoring for years to see them together again. now, they get to come together, and get good bucks for it. what's the hypocritical beef with that? everyone, including you, do your thing for the freaking money! otherwise, you'll be walking around butt naked with no place to go. geez. the thing i hate more than capitalism and shameless marketing is hypocrisy. if you hate hypocrisy then you must hate marlboro for hiding behind the mask of this eheads concert.
i tried getting into the redlist site. can't possibly get a ticket because i'm not a smoker. so hindi na makakausad ang application ko. kung gusto kong panoorin ang eheads, kailangan kong magsinungaling na nagyoyosi ako. gusto ko ba 'yun? gusto ko bang magpauto sa gimmick ng marlboro para makapanood nito? hehehe!! sorry ely and the gang, mukhang hindi ako magpapaloko! antayin ko na lang kayo pag medyo nagkaedad na kayo. hopefully, by that time, mas may sense na kayo ng jamming not for the money but for the good trip of playing good music. just my two cents' worth . . . definitely hating hypocrisy as liz has pointed out. rock and roll! mali lang kasi yung title, bakit kasi title nya is why the concert suck? d ba mas maganda carlos na ang title ng blog is why marlboro suck? like what liz says, matagal na inabangan etong concert na to...
pero ayaw mo ba talaga sa concert? do you smoke? cheers pareng conde gusto mo yta ikaw n lang mgconcert o isponsoran ng marlboro kw na lng papanoorin nmin
hehehehe... kayo manood... pero para sa akin... mas ok pang manood ng sandwich...
eraserheads forever!
ely, raymund, buddy, marcus the best! read between the lines! Dapat hindi na mag reunion concert ang E-heads. Yung Beatles never had a reunion concert after they broke up...On second thought, hindi nga pala sila beatles, wanna be lang....bahala kayo...magplastican kayo ely at raymund....
Not only for the band eraser heads!
how about a DVD copy for the last major concert of boyfriends, asin, f.aguilar and others. This is a cultural preservation in the future. I think GMA7 should take a first step on this., since they are the most promising profit tv company and entertainment in the phils. i don't expect abs cbn because their owner lopez family is sucking filipino wealth. JUST READ THIS REPORT...AND JUST THOUGHT IT'S WORTH SHARING...AS IT IS RELATED TO THE SUBJECT MATTER...
The Associated Press - 7/31/2008 5:32 AM GMT Alicia Keys stubs out cigarette promotion for gig Philip Morris International has pulled down billboards and posters promoting an Alicia Keys concert Thursday in Indonesia's capital after the singer protested the cigarette company's sponsorship. The logo and slogans of A Mild cigarettes, produced by a Philip Morris affiliate, featured prominently in promotional materials for the concert. The Washington-based Campaign for Tobacco Free Kids anti-smoking organization initially drew Keys' attention to the company's association with the show. In a letter released by her record company, Sony BMG Music Entertainment, she said she had asked the company to stop the branding. "I am an unyielding advocate for the well-being of children around the world and do not condone or endorse smoking," she said. Philip Morris International did not say whether it was demanding its money back, nor reveal how much it had paid to sponsor the event. "Whether tobacco sponsorship of music events leads to youth smoking is a matter of serious debate," the company said in a statement received Thursday. "Having considered the facts in this specific instance, we have decided to withdraw all branding associated with this concert." More than 30 percent of Indonesia's 220 million people smoke, making it the fifth-largest tobacco market in the world, according to the World Health Organization. In the United States, Philip Morris USA and other major tobacco companies are prohibited from sponsorships of concerts, but there are no such regulations in Indonesia. The affiliate, HM Sampoerna, regularly sponsors sports events and pop concerts in Indonesia. Philip Morris was not the sole sponsor of the concert, but the event is billed as an "A Mild Live Production," suggesting it is a major backer. With health campaigns taking a toll on cigarette sales in the West, tobacco companies are focusing marketing campaigns on developing countries like Indonesia. ETO PA RIN ANG CONCERT NA INAABANGAN NG BAYAN!!!!!!!!!!
I agree with your view about the concert, Mr. Conde. As a matter of fact, I raised a similar concern when the news broke out 10 days ahead of this blog posting of yours. You can read about my thoughts on the whole reunion concert shite here:
http://popazrael.multiply.com/journal/item/1550/Eraserheads_reunion_concert_2008_-_threads_blind_items_clues_and_more._this_is_it But here's an excerpt from one of my comments: "Am I happy that they're back together, even for just a one-night gig only? Yes. Am I happy that they're back together? No, kasi pera lang ang nagbalik sa kanila. Nandyan pa 'yung resentment nila sa isa't-isa eh, and if that reflects onto the stage, masisira 'yung vibe ng concert. But what do I know? Tugtugin lang nila 'yung "Ligaya" magwawala na 'yung mga tao. Kantahin lang nila 'yung "With A Smile" magsi-sing-along na ang lahat." well, wala naman masama kung magreunion concert yung eheads, marketing strategy kasi ito ng Marlboro kung totoo man na sila yung magiisponsor ng event, pero about sa writer, dapat hindi agad magpapaniwala sa mga maling akala
ayun nga sa song ng eheads "marami ang namamatay sa maling akala" ive remember narinig ko sa isang interview si Raimund ang nagsasalita about this EHEADS reunion thing, sabi niya hindi daw ito sponsored ng marlboro, at hindi daw libre ang ticket, may bayad daw, saka hindi lang 45mins ang reunion, more than 1 1/2 hrs daw, well ayun yun kay Raimund, kay Ely Buendia, di rin masyadong nagsasalita about sa marlboro thing, pero tingin ko nagkakalabuan pa rin itong sina Ely at Raimund, at sana wag nang gamitin itong reunion concerts para sumikat lang yung mga wannabe writers, as one of the million fans, remember one thing sa isang line sa kanta ng eheads "para sa masa" ang gagawin nila... kumuha ka na ba ng ticket? alam mo kung saan kukuha ng ticket? baka magulat ka kung saang site ka dapat mag-register para makapanood ng reunion concert na 'to.
pag nasagot mo na ang tanong ko, saka ka ulit kumunta ng . . . "marami ang namamatay sa maling akala" peace, \joyce what's with the ticket thing?
getting the ticket or "passes" is not a great mystery. geez. "nakakagulantang" pala ang magregister sa red list? much ado about nothing at all. kung ayaw, wag, kung gusto, go. meron na bang nagreklamo dahil ang manufacturer ng isang event ay company na gumagawa ng condom?
READ THIS
http://blogs.gmanews.tv/sidetrip/blog/index.php?/archives/362-The-view-from-the-top-of-the-cigarette-industry.html THIS IS THE BLOG OF MR HOWIE SEVERINO, DITO RIN NIAN SA GMA. Good post.
Blogged about this last July 14, here: http://luiskatigbak.multiply.com/journal/item/75/Eraserheads_The_Circus_is_Back_in_Town Some of the people who commented on my post ARE lawyers, and there was an interesting discussion about the legality of the show. An excerpt: "My own reading was that '...where such sponsorship...' applied to the sponsorship by the companies of individuals and teams, and not the events themselves. But my own impression also was that the ban in sponsorship of concerts beginning 1 July 2008 was absolute, thus I was mystified by the proviso allowing 'attribution only to the name of the company in the roster of sponsors...'. I also suspect that the industry had a hand in the drafting of the law, so any ambiguity could only work to their benefit." kung ayaw niyo manood, eh di huwag...lahat na lang pinapansin...as if naman may magagawa mga pagrereklamo niyo sa pagtigil ng mga tao sa pagpatronize ng sigarilyo...may concert o wala, may sponsorhip concerts o advertising man o wala, pag may nagyoyosi buhay ang industriya ng tobacco, tuloy ang mga nagkaka-lung cancer at iba pa...
thinking out loud lang nman yung blogger, wag nyo na tirahin. masarap mag yosi, masarap din makinig ng eheads. opinion nya yun kya wag nalang tirahin. buti nga may nababasa pa kayo. yosi + heads + beer = good fun!
its not thinking out loud. its trashing the heads. its degrading and undermining the fans.
tinira nia eheads ano ka ba?heelllloooowwwwww? arogante ang blog na to.basahin mo lahat ng comments dito at ung nasa pinoy press.....ung iba arogante rin. nakakatawa magbasa ng mga komento. obviously, maraming masyadong clouded ng "undying eheads love" ang reactions making their choice of words and reasoning quite... irrational and O.A. oh well. no point arguing with narrow-minded people, di ba?
you've presented good points in your article and i am glad i got to read this first. i am not good with laws and stuff but i understood what you were trying to point out. you've communicated your views well. anglaki na ng tawa ni conde
whatever happens, sinabi ng undersecretary ng DOH na yung company ang idedemanda. not the eheads. and that means, they respect the heads that much, and you mr. conde crucified them telling us that the heads are nanggagago and nagpapagago. the comments are decreasing, because the fans are desensitized by your bickerings. thank you I hope they would play because the music craze is still in them. Though the money is good, it should only be secondary.
I tried to register on the Marlboro site and lied about being a smoker. Unfortunately, I still did not have a scanned document that will prove I'm above 18 and was unable to continue my registration.
Has anyone here already got a ticket by registering in the Marlboro site? Are all red listers assured to have tickets or will these be raffled off? Wow, pare, daming nerds na tumatangkilik sa eheads...
Bigat ng mga pinagsasabi. Pero binasa ko naman. Nerd din siguro ako. Wahaha... Kaso para naman kasing ginawang santo ang eheads na dapat sumunod sila sa batas, na dapat 'wag silang mag-kamkam ng maraming kuwarta sa "maling" paraan, na dapat wag nilang gaguhin ang taong bayan, na dapat ganito ganyan. Ulol! Karamihan sa atin sa kailaliman ng ating mga laman ay ang pagrerebelde — ang orgasmo na kinikiliti ng musika ng eheads. Ang sarap kaya nun! I salute you E-heads and Marlboro! You're doing a "hell" of a job. Ano kaya mangyayari... sarap siguro nun kung maghampasan ng gitara at drumset sina ely at raymund habang nag-papaiyak pa rin ng gitara si Marcus, tapos si Buddy... wala lang. O kaya hindi matutuloy yung concert, tapos mag-aaklas ang mga nabuhay sa 90's na siguro ngayon ay may mga trabaho na, tapos tapos merong isang demented fan tapos i-murder niya si ely, pero mabubuhay si ely kasi may super powers siya and he will run barbie run run barbie habang si raymund ay hahabulin niya si ely at hahampasin ng drumstick, hindi yung ice cream ha, pero ice cream pwede na rin, pero makakailag si ely kasi nga may super powers siya tapos bati na sila... Ah basta... O siguro pwede rin magiging maaliwalas ang lahat, masasampahan ng kaso ang marlboro, hindi na magyoyosi ang mga tao, magkaka-concert pa rin ang eheads at ang sponsor nila ay sunny orange I love you (theme song), tapos walang riot na magaganap (dati kasi laging may riot sa concerts, pero sa pagkakataong ito wala), and everyone will live happily ever after... sarap noh? If you realy want to be in the reunion concert, you can be who ever you want to be. You can have a ficticious name, you can be a smoker even if you are not or you can be above 18 even if you are just 10.
Would there be really a problem? Would the company ask you to take a "hit" or ask for your birth certificate before they give away the tickets? Let the company do whatever they want to do as part of their campaign as you can post whatever you want to exercise your freedom of speech!? When does the anti smoking campaign and the revision of Philippine law started? About 2mins ago?(figuratively speaking)For what reason? Increasing incidence of lung diseases/lung cancer and the burden of medical costs to the Government? Or is it because thats the "in" thing in the developing countries now so might as well copy them. We are vulnerable of lung diseases by merely breathing the atmospheric air. Just because the Government can't do something about the pollution, well easier remedy is to attack tobacco companies to show people that the elected officers of the government are working on "something". ohhh man, working very hard!!!! Ask Magnolia ice cream (ube flavour) if they are willing to sponsor e'heads and able to pay 10 million? It would only leave us to no reunion concert happening. Not all the members of eraserheads smoke anyway so what the fuss about?come on!!!! let it happen!!! Sigh the lengths people would go to just to relive a dying dream...
Music isn't just music, it's something that has value for each for us, and the more important kind of music are those that can change the perceptions and realities off people.Music that can bring hope to people. Eheads selling out, nonetheless to a merchant of death instantly kills their music, kills its purpose, it kills the art. I rather hear them in CDs, than to hear them live backed up by some evil corporation. And then there's the LAW. As much as I used to like the Eheads, but LAW is the most important thing of all, A law that tries to save our children from the back effects of smoking but yet will they take that bribe? Are songs really more important than our children's future? What would those who would eventually love Eheads think? "Oooh I love the eheads. And they smoke! Nice, i'll smoke too" This is really really bad. Is there no decency left in our country? When old heroes become villains. But yeah some of fans here think that listening to their songs is more important... sigh there's no hope for this country when our own selfish desire come first. But it's not too late, they can do this without sponsors, really. Do this for a cause instead, live up to the music you made. And to those fucked up retards who insist that what they are doing is not illegal: Section 25. Restrictions on Sponsorships. Beginning 1 July 2006: a. No sponsorship shall be provided for: 1) an event or activity which bears a tobacco product brand name, unless there is reasonable basis to believe that all persons who compete, or otherwise taken an active part, in the sponsored events or activities, are person eighteen (18) years of age or older; 2) a team or individual bearing a tobacco product name, unless all persons under eighteen (18) years of age or older; 3) a sponsored event or activity reasonably believed to be particular appear to persons under eighteen (18) years old. b. Tobacco brand sponsorship shall be prohibited except where there is a reasonable basis to believe that: 1) attendance at the sponsored event or activity will comprise no less than seventy-five percent (75%) persons at least eighteen years of age or older; 2) the sponsored event or activity will not be of particular appeal to persons under eighteen (18) years old; 3) the sponsored event or activity will not receive exposure, other than as a news item, on television or radio or the Internet, unless such exposure complies with the provisions of this Act governing tobacco marketing through those media; and 4) the principal activity associated with the sponsorship does not require above-average physical fitness for someone of the age group of those taking part. c. All persons authorized to bear tobacco product advertisement, logos and brand names at sponsored events shall be at least eighteen (18) years old. d. All forms of advertising associated with or ancillary to sponsorship shall comply with the marketing provisions of this Act. and yes I am a law student. Even if the contract was signed months before, the fact is that the event will happen after the proclaimed BAN. The only hope is this ambigous provision that would be interpreted by our dear courts: where such sponsorship shall required or involve the advertisement or promotion of any cigarette or tobacco company, tobacco product or tobacco use, name, logo or trademarks and other words, symbols, designs, colors or other depictions commonly associated with or likely to identify a tobacco product; But for me I think its clear when considering the spirit of the law and this section on banning itself which is: curbing Cigarette use in the country Mas okay pa siguro kung may bayad ang tickets then use their earnings to something useful (charity, calamity victims, etc.). One evidence I noticed that most of those who commented here are not really die-hard fans, but people who don't give a f*ck to the cause of what they are going to watch. The E-heads became famous in the 90's, to understand their music and be a die-hard fan, estimate ko dapat nasa high school ka na nung time na yun. And you should be middle-aged by now and not know (and maybe irritated by) text-typing. Because of your immaturity and narrow-mindedness, hindi nyo makita ang point ni Mr. Conde. Naisip ko nga ito nung nalaman kong Philip Morris ang sponsor at bawal mag-sponsor ang tobacco companies, pano kung ganyan ulit gawin nila next time? Di ba labag na sa batas pero ang dami pa rin nagpapaka-tanga? No wonder halos ng Pinoy ignorante sa batas, nakakakita sila ng entity na may workaround para malabag ang mga iyon. I really wish the whole Philippines will be bombarded because of this ideology. Hindi ko alam pano itutuwid isip ng mga ganong tao.
Hindi rin naman natin masisi ang E-heads, sino tatanggi sa sangkatutak na pera (kung totoo mang milyon ang bayad)? Pero sino ang may initiative, di ba ang Philip Morris? Sana ibang company na lang nakaisip ng reunion nila. Pero kung matuloy man ito at Philip Morris nga ang sponsor, pinatunayan lang ng mga Pinoy na wala silang paki sa batas ng Pilipinas. Be open-minded, don't be blinded by something people make you believe in. How sad.. tama kasi si caloy...naisip ko din yun..pano kaya pagtapos ng concert parang wala lang sa eheads yun at kumita lang iniisip nila?lahat tayo gustong kumita pero dapat isipin din natin yung iba.naloloko tayo ng company na yan ng yosi,at ang ginamit nila yung pinakamamahal nating banda.tiningala natin sila dahil matalino at magaling sila...pero sa totoo lang diba mukhang ginagamit lang talaga sila ng marlboro para sa sariling kapakanan.im sure may emosyon sa lahat ng manunuod at sigurado pati na rin sa eheads pero ang marlboro,tatawa tawa lang.napaglaruan nila ang batas at the same time nagamit nila ang pinaka tanyag na banda sa pinas...
pero punta parin ako...para ako mismo makasaksi kung ano meron dun bukod nga sa reunion concert..sabi nga sa slow mo,kung may nais kang malaman,bat di mo rin subukan... peace out!~! CALOY CONDE WROTE AN APOLOGY LETTER. TO THE PEOPLE WHO ARE FANS BUT ARE ON THE DARK SIDE. bahala na kayo. magpakamoralista kayo at makialam sa bagay bagay na mas mahalaga pa kesa sa concert na to. like ur duties sa church, magulang, education trabaho, asawa, anak. at wag na rin kayo mag yosi. at sa lahat ng nakikita niong nag yoyosi ilabas niosa kanila himutok nio ng parang sa mga pinost nio ok?kung kaya nio.
blah blah --- In eraserheads@ yahoogroups. com, "caloy conde" wrote: > > > > Guys, > > > > I feel a bit like Daniel right now. But I feel I have to do this. > > > > When I blogged about the Eraserheads reunion concert, I wasn't out > looking > > for a fight. The rumors of the concert bothered me, so, like many > bloggers, > > I blogged about it. > > > > In hindsight, I admit that the tone of my post was judgmental on the > > Eraserheads. Although I have nothing but admiration for the band and, in > > fact, made clear in my original post that they deserve whatever > money they > > can get from their sponsors, I judged them rather swiftly. For this, I > > apologize to the members of the Eraserheads. > > > > I apologize, too, to the fans that were offended by my posts and my > > comments. I had no intention of ridiculing you or of condescending > toward > > you. A lot of this animosity ( all the "gago," "ejerks" terms and other > > offensive language) sprung from the reactions to my post. I felt > that I was > > just responding in kind. In hindsight, of course, I should have known > > better. > > > > I also didn't set out to propagate my anti-smoking advocacy. Truth > be told, > > I didn't have such an advocacy prior to this. (Four of five years ago, I > > tried smoking (Marlboro). Thankfully, the habit didn't stick.) I > thought I > > was just blogging. I expected reactions, of course, but was > befuddled by the > > level of vitriol that I got through the comments section of > gmanews.tv and > > pinoypress.net. > > > > In any case, because of this issue, I got interested even more in the > > behavior of tobacco companies. So now, I sound like an anti-tobacco > > advocate. Not that I'm apologizing for this position. I'm not. I still > > believe that Philip Morris is manipulating the public and I wish > that the > > Eheads were in a position to ignore the company's offer. > > > > I intend to continue blogging about the involvement of Philip Morris > in all > > this and I'm certain that many of you will not share my position. > But that's > > just the way it works, right? > > > > Again, my sincerest apologies to those who were offended by the tone and > > language in my posts and comments. > > > > Caloy Conde Ang hirap kumuha ng ticket, kelangan pang mag register, pero okay lang din, it's worth it, I'm going to watch it because I love the band. The blogger just expressed what he was thinking so as those who commented. I'm looking forward to this.
easy ka lng nood ka na lng kasi ...
Mga Brod nalipat na yung venue sa the fort sa taguig kita kita na lng tau ah mr conde, kelan mo masasabi na ang isang tao mukhang pera?... c dolphy binabayaran for advertising hotdog pero ung hotdog diba masama rin sa health??? does it make dolphy mukang pera din? at nanggagago?... ang mga painter sobrang mahal kung maningil ng gawa nila mukha din ba sila pera?... ikaw binabayaran ka para magsulat pero sinasabi nyong mga manunulat na nagsusulat kayo para sa mga tao bakit kelangan my bayad pa s inyo? mukha din b kayo pera? at nanggago?
...just asking lang naguguluhan kasi ako pano naging mukhang pera eheads A RESPONSE TO CONDE'S Is It Really All About the Music? Eraserheads Fans Want to Know SA PINOYPRESS.
mr conde tumigil ka na sa pagblog sa eheads.sa eheads lang. BINABASTOS mo mga eheads fan. buti pa yung gma hindi moderated ang comments. they are artist. professionals. money is always in the equation. but kung pera at pera lamang ang usapan dito, aba. wag na sila magpractice ng buo. aba wag na magkita yung 2 miyembro na mayroong di magandang past. dahil pera lang naman di ba. kaya naman nila magpractice ng isa isa.c ely nagpractice sa aussie.ung eraser x show. last week nagpractice cla,sama sama. only god knows kung anong nangyari but the thing is nagsama sama sila...for what?to practice. bakit ka magprapractice? para maganda tunog. eh kung maganda ung tunog? para maganda ung show. eh anu ngaun kung maganda ung show? para magandahan ang fans. kasi me work ethics sila.they will give 101% for that show bakit sila me work ethics? because they respect their fans. the fans love their music. so they are doing this for the money? as in money? sa lahat ng "nagiisip at sensible eheads fan" pakitanong sa spice girls kung bakit cla ng tour ule?at sa mga daang daang artist na nag rereunion concert or tour patanong sa kanila if they are doing it for the money. and "if" they are doing that for the money, at least, im proud that their show is worth 10M. me pilipinong banda ba na tatalo dun? pero ikaw lang ata mr. conde ang nagiisip nun at iilang followers mo. wag ng ibaba ang level mo sa tsismoso sa kanto.pls. sayang ang pag ka SEC GEN mo another free advertisement courtesy of our most avid detractor, mr caloy conde.
i challenged you, magpaka lalaki ka. wag mong i moderate ang comments sa pinoypress your last post you are questioning the motives of the eheads, if its for money, music or fans. someone mentioned the spice girls. i think that asong ulol, pertained to the reason why did the spice girls reunite?the same aspect why do bands of the 80 reunite again to perform. that person is questioning the motives of those groups, include the eheads, and based from your assumptions on that post, its like money vs music. nagegets mo ba?yun kasi yung tanong mo sa last post mo. NO PMI FACTOR. why did the band decided to have a group practice ignoring personal differences?is it for the money? for the fans? for the music? bakit ka magprapractice ng grupo?why would they do that?nasa contract ba kaya yun?naka specify na kelangan nila magpractice sa contract? on that post you brutally undermined the fans. putting words to their mouth, like "eraserheads fans want to know" hindi ko alam kung ano nakukuha mo dito. but it looks like, nagiging hobby mo na ito. yup. masama ang smoking. pero clearly legal yung reunion concert. and if the UP people clamors sa UP sunken garden sila mag reunion, dream on. i know they have reasons kung bakit di pwede. besides UPCAT lang ang napasa nila. they did not graduate. but still they remained professionals, and preparing to put up a good show, for the fans. if you brand me as asong ulol, fine pero sino yung gawa ng gawa ng blog na paulit ulit, recycling, at hanap ng hanap ng butas sa concert na to. i dare you mr carlos conde pag me nakita kang naninigarilyo kausapin mo at sabihin mo sa kanya ang mga sinasabi mo dito. if you do that, then your campaign is genuine. god bless you t’s a good thing the traffic eased up and the taxi reached my destination, because I was starting to get ticked off. As you may have heard, the Eraserheads are having a reunion concert on August 30. On an AM radio station, two representatives of the Department of Health were discussing the legal issues surrounding the event, which was organized by a cigarette company. A DOH spokesman explained that effective July 1, cigarette advertising and promotions, including sponsorships of shows etc, is banned, and therefore the Eraserheads show violates the law. So he called on the Eheads to “think of the youth”, “do the right thing” etc, and decline to do the concert, for which they have reportedly been paid between 2 and 10 million pesos. He noted that by choosing the Eheads to do the show, the cigarette company is obviously targeting young people. Otherwise, he added, the cancerstick makers would’ve hired Pavarotti or Banyuhay.
a. The cancerstick people did not get Pavarotti to do a concert, because Pavarotti is dead. Not to disparage Banyuhay, but they were not the most popular, most influential band of the 90s. As for hitting the youth market, the Eheads have not played together for many years, and their audience is no longer young. b. If the concert is indeed illegal, then the DOH should go after the cancerstick company, not the band. Of course, it is easier to take on a disbanded band than a rich and powerful multinational corporation. c. Yes, the Eraserheads are doing the show for money. Newsflash: Unless one is born independently wealthy, one does things for money. As far as I know, they have never been anti-smoking advocates, and therefore are not selling their principles by agreeing to appear in a show sponsored by carcinogens. Money itself is not evil. Sanctimoniousness pisses me off. d. Granted, my opinion is colored by the fact that I worked with the Eheads, I remain on good terms with all of them, and I’ve wormed myself into the guest list. e. I do not smoke, and I have never smoked, but if people want to kill themselves with tar and nicotine they are free to do so, provided they do not smoke in my presence. - from miss jessica zafra http://jessicarulestheuniverse.com/2008/08/09/smoking-heads/ i think she hates you. another free advertisement courtesy of our most avid detractor, mr caloy conde.
i challenged you, inamin na ng PMI na sila ang nagorganize nito so wag mong i moderate ang comments sa pinoypress your last post you are questioning the motives of the eheads, if its for money, music or fans. someone mentioned the spice girls. i think that asong ulol, pertained to the reason why did the spice girls reunite (money vs music) ?the same aspect why do bands of the 80 reunite again to perform. that person is questioning the motives of those groups, include the eheads, and based from your assumptions on that post, its money vs music lang.ung PMI factor tinanggal mo dun, malinaw yun. nagegets mo ba?yun kasi yung tanong mo sa last post mo. NO PMI FACTOR. kung pinapalabas mo na pera ang dahilan. why did the band decided to have a group practice ignoring personal differences?is it for the money? for the fans? for the music? bakit ka magprapractice ng grupo?why would they do that?nasa contract ba kaya yun?naka specify na kelangan nila magpractice sa contract? on that post you brutally undermined the fans. putting words to their mouth, like "eraserheads fans want to know" hindi ko alam kung ano nakukuha mo dito. but it looks like, nagiging hobby mo na ito. yup. masama ang smoking. pero clearly legal yung reunion concert. and if the UP people clamors sa UP sunken garden sila mag reunion, dream on. i know they have reasons kung bakit di pwede. besides UPCAT lang ang napasa nila. they did not graduate. but still they remained professionals, and preparing to put up a good show, for the fans. if you brand me as asong ulol, fine pero sino yung gawa ng gawa ng blog na paulit ulit, recycling, at hanap ng hanap ng butas sa concert na to. i dare you mr carlos conde pag me nakita kang naninigarilyo kausapin mo at sabihin mo sa kanya ang mga sinasabi mo dito. if you do that, then your campaign is genuine. god bless you Ang mga fans ng Eheads di naman habol ang free concert, kahit na mahal ang bayad pupunta pa din... so kahit hindi marlboro ang nag sponsor ng concert, for sure, dadagsain ng mga fans ang reunion concert!!!
Tama nmn si kuya caloy nagamit ang eheads para sa kung ano man ang motibo ng Marlboro maliwanag pa sa sikat ng buwan yan..at tama din ang mga taga hanga pupunta sila sa konsyerto para masaksihan muli/sa unang pagkakataon ang eheads hindi para suminghot ng yosi....! ang totoo malalim ang iniwang ligaya ng eheads,malalim ang pagiisip ni kuya caloy na di maabot ng iba,at syempre malalim din ang pag iisip ng taga hanga na rakenrol ang pakay nila hindi ang nikotina...
kahit di ako taga yupi kase sikanyir hayskul lang natapos ko masasabi ko na parepareho lang may punto ang lahat ng nandito sa kolum na 'to, basta ang sakin lang si kuya caloy kamukha ni joey marquez! all we need is love! sabi ng idol ng idol naten! m a b u h a y... oh, cut it... all's good. It's the Eheads. If the devil sponsored i'd still come.
I don't believe in the devil, but I believe in eheads. I find it hard to believe
That all the pain that we are feeling Has some meaning in this world It's so hard to believe That everything you see is different From the things that you've been told I wanted life to be this way Just a little bit of love could mean so much O please don't take it all away But with you heaven is still close enough to touch I find it hard to believe That someone up there is waiting With arms open wide and smiling It's so hard to believe When someone told me that your suffering Is what you get for living I wanted life to be this way Just a little bit of love could mean so much O please don't take it all away But with you heaven is still close enough to touch Because your love is still the only thing That matters in this world The only thing i can believe... I still can't believe eheads will play again.. |
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